I've gotten several (all right: two) emails in the past few days that begin xxxx visited DSPRelated.com and clicked on your name from this page: http://www.dsprelated.com/showmessage/28.php to contact you. His message follows: It seems that I am on a list of genial free consultants. If I am, I'm sure that plenty of more-qualified others are too. I respond so: "You will do me and yourself a favor to post questions like yours to comp.dsp. I will not have the intrusion to my private email, and you will have two benefits: a panel of people to address it, and others to review and possibly correct or expand upon the answer." So far, I try to help when I can. Eventually, I will simply stop responding. Although it is ordinarily a breach of netiquette to address newsgroup messages to individuals at home, there are some circumstances that warrant it. Being placed without permission on a roster of advisers is not one of those circumstances. Stephanie: do you read me? Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
OT: Annoying emails
Started by ●February 26, 2005
Reply by ●February 26, 20052005-02-26
I've gotten a few of these, too. Actually, I've gotten notes directly from people for quite a few years when the senders have gleaned my address from here or somewhere else. Many times they get my address from IEEE standards contributions with my name on them (a contribution I did years ago comparing MSK/TFM to OQPSK/QPSK seems to be quite popular for some reason). So far they've been infrequent enough that I usually respond with some small amount of help and try to point them in the right direction. I've not yet had one get to the point where I felt I was being exploited as a free consultant. Your idea about sending them here is a good one, though. I'll start using that more frequently. On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:36:54 -0500, Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> wrote:>I've gotten several (all right: two) emails in the past few days that begin > >xxxx visited DSPRelated.com and clicked on your name from this page: > http://www.dsprelated.com/showmessage/28.php > to contact you. His message follows: > >It seems that I am on a list of genial free consultants. If I am, I'm >sure that plenty of more-qualified others are too. I respond so: > >"You will do me and yourself a favor to post questions like yours to >comp.dsp. I will not have the intrusion to my private email, and you >will have two benefits: a panel of people to address it, and others to >review and possibly correct or expand upon the answer." > >So far, I try to help when I can. Eventually, I will simply stop >responding. Although it is ordinarily a breach of netiquette to address >newsgroup messages to individuals at home, there are some circumstances >that warrant it. Being placed without permission on a roster of advisers >is not one of those circumstances. > >Stephanie: do you read me? > >Jerry >-- >Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. >�����������������������������������������������������������������������Eric Jacobsen Minister of Algorithms, Intel Corp. My opinions may not be Intel's opinions. http://www.ericjacobsen.org
Reply by ●February 26, 20052005-02-26
Eric Jacobsen wrote:> I've gotten a few of these, too. Actually, I've gotten notes > directly from people for quite a few years when the senders have > gleaned my address from here or somewhere else. Many times they get > my address from IEEE standards contributions with my name on them (a > contribution I did years ago comparing MSK/TFM to OQPSK/QPSK seems to > be quite popular for some reason). > > So far they've been infrequent enough that I usually respond with some > small amount of help and try to point them in the right direction. > I've not yet had one get to the point where I felt I was being > exploited as a free consultant. > > Your idea about sending them here is a good one, though. I'll start > using that more frequently. >You can always answer a few questions, then point out that you're not a _free_ consultant and quote them your standard rate. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com
Reply by ●February 26, 20052005-02-26
Eric Jacobsen wrote:> I've gotten a few of these, too. Actually, I've gotten notes > directly from people for quite a few years when the senders have > gleaned my address from here or somewhere else. Many times they get > my address from IEEE standards contributions with my name on them (a > contribution I did years ago comparing MSK/TFM to OQPSK/QPSK seems to > be quite popular for some reason). > > So far they've been infrequent enough that I usually respond with some > small amount of help and try to point them in the right direction. > I've not yet had one get to the point where I felt I was being > exploited as a free consultant. > > Your idea about sending them here is a good one, though. I'll start > using that more frequently.Thanks, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Oh, sure, I've gotten plenty of walk-ins before too. I'm concerns now by what seems to be an institutionalized channel. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
Reply by ●February 27, 20052005-02-27
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:24:03 -0800, Tim Wescott <tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:>Eric Jacobsen wrote: >> I've gotten a few of these, too. Actually, I've gotten notes >> directly from people for quite a few years when the senders have >> gleaned my address from here or somewhere else. Many times they get >> my address from IEEE standards contributions with my name on them (a >> contribution I did years ago comparing MSK/TFM to OQPSK/QPSK seems to >> be quite popular for some reason). >> >> So far they've been infrequent enough that I usually respond with some >> small amount of help and try to point them in the right direction. >> I've not yet had one get to the point where I felt I was being >> exploited as a free consultant. >> >> Your idea about sending them here is a good one, though. I'll start >> using that more frequently. >> >You can always answer a few questions, then point out that you're not a >_free_ consultant and quote them your standard rate.Hi Tim, ah ha. And what rate would that be? See Ya', [-Rick-]
Reply by ●February 27, 20052005-02-27
] ah ha. And what rate would that be? When I was being inundated with SPAM, my rate was USD 500 per e-mail. Higher for multiples. ;-) Ciao, Peter K.
Reply by ●February 28, 20052005-02-28
Jerry Wrote:>I've gotten several (all right: two) emails in the past few days thatbegin> >xxxx visited DSPRelated.com and clicked on your name from this page: > http://www.dsprelated.com/showmessage/28.php > to contact you. His message follows: > >It seems that I am on a list of genial free consultants. If I am, I'm >sure that plenty of more-qualified others are too. I respond so: > >"You will do me and yourself a favor to post questions like yours to >comp.dsp. I will not have the intrusion to my private email, and you >will have two benefits: a panel of people to address it, and others to >review and possibly correct or expand upon the answer." > >So far, I try to help when I can. Eventually, I will simply stop >responding. Although it is ordinarily a breach of netiquette to address >newsgroup messages to individuals at home, there are some circumstances >that warrant it. Being placed without permission on a roster of advisers>is not one of those circumstances. > >Stephanie: do you read me? > >Jerry >--Hi Jerry, I don't know what you mean by "Being placed without permission on a roster of advisers is not one of those circumstances". When people access comp.dsp through DSPRelated.com and want to participate to a thread, they can either "Post a follow up" or "Reply to the Author". Up until this morning, they could also click directly on the name of the author of the message to access a form to contact her/him (without being shown the email address of the author). I have removed this possibility in the hope to reduce the amount of annoying emails you and others receive. Let me know what you think. Stephane (not Stephanie). This message was sent using the Comp.DSP web interface on www.DSPRelated.com
Reply by ●February 28, 20052005-02-28
Peter K. wrote:> ] ah ha. And what rate would that be? > > When I was being inundated with SPAM, my rate was USD 500 per e-mail. > Higher for multiples. ;-) > > Ciao, > > Peter K. >did you ever collect?
Reply by ●February 28, 20052005-02-28
stephaneb wrote:> I don't know what you mean by "Being placed without permission on a roster > of advisers is not one of those circumstances". When people access comp.dsp > through DSPRelated.com and want to participate to a thread, they can either > "Post a follow up" or "Reply to the Author". Up until this morning, they > could also click directly on the name of the author of the message to > access a form to contact her/him (without being shown the email address of > the author). I have removed this possibility in the hope to reduce the > amount of annoying emails you and others receive.The last, now unavailable, option you mentioned is close enough to what I supposed to relieve me of the need to apologize. Thank you for taking care of it. You're a real lady! The part about not being shown the author's address is a nice touch, but not important to me. My unmunged address appears in every post I make and in every response. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
Reply by ●February 28, 20052005-02-28
