Almost, but not completely, Off Topic-DSP books

Hi Guys,

  I posted the following inside a thread here, but 
thought it might be mildly entertaining to whoever
didn't read down through that particular thread.

---
  Something silly just occurred to me.

Wanna hear a bit of "DSP-book trivia"?

1) Grover's and Deller's wonderful book, "DSP With 
Microcontrollers", is the only DSP book as far as 
I know that contains a swear (curse) word.

2) My book is the only DSP book, as far as I 
know, that was mentioned on a nationally-syndicated 
(in the U.S.) radio program.  It was the "Dr. Laura"
radio program here in the U.S.

Now Robert B-J, don't go "ballistic" when you read the 
name "Dr. Laura".

See Ya',
[-Rick-]

My favourite Dr Laura reference:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/drlaura.asp

Ciao,

Peter K.

Rick Lyons wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> 
>   I posted the following inside a thread here, but 
> thought it might be mildly entertaining to whoever
> didn't read down through that particular thread.
> 
> ---
>   Something silly just occurred to me.
> 
> Wanna hear a bit of "DSP-book trivia"?
> 
> 1) Grover's and Deller's wonderful book, "DSP With 
> Microcontrollers", is the only DSP book as far as 
> I know that contains a swear (curse) word.
> 
> 2) My book is the only DSP book, as far as I 
> know, that was mentioned on a nationally-syndicated 
> (in the U.S.) radio program.  It was the "Dr. Laura"
> radio program here in the U.S.
> 
> Now Robert B-J, don't go "ballistic" when you read the 
> name "Dr. Laura".
> 
> See Ya',
> [-Rick-]
> 
I bought the book "Adaptive Optimal Control" by Bitmead, Gevers and 
Wertz because section 1.2 is titled "A Jaundiced View of Adaptive 
Control History".  I was mildly rewarded when it turned out to be an 
academically solid book, and accessible to the self-studier.  I was 
_infinitely_ rewarded when I got to page 159, where somewhere in the 
middle it says "The mechanism for such 'bad craziness' can be 
intuitively..." -- then cites "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" by Hunter 
S Thompson!

-- 

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

in article 42362a2c.558780968@news.sf.sbcglobal.net, Rick Lyons at
r.lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org wrote on 03/14/2005 19:27:

> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> I posted the following inside a thread here, but
> thought it might be mildly entertaining to whoever
> didn't read down through that particular thread.
> 
> ---
> Something silly just occurred to me.
> 
> Wanna hear a bit of "DSP-book trivia"?
> 
> 1) Grover's and Deller's wonderful book, "DSP With
> Microcontrollers", is the only DSP book as far as
> I know that contains a swear (curse) word.

i have the book.  where is it?  i only remember the description of the phase
response of elliptical filters as "drunk fly on skis in a tornado."  i
thought that was pretty memorable.

> 2) My book is the only DSP book, as far as I
> know, that was mentioned on a nationally-syndicated
> (in the U.S.) radio program.  It was the "Dr. Laura"
> radio program here in the U.S.
> 
> Now Robert B-J, don't go "ballistic" when you read the
> name "Dr. Laura".


don't listen to anything other than NPR and the local university station.
but i think i knew she was some sorta Bill Bennett type of fascist.

-- 

r b-j                  rbj@audioimagination.com

"Imagination is more important than knowledge."

] I bought the book "Adaptive Optimal Control" by Bitmead, Gevers and
] Wertz because section 1.2 is titled "A Jaundiced View of Adaptive
] Control History".  I was mildly rewarded when it turned out to be an
] academically solid book, and accessible to the self-studier.  I was
] _infinitely_ rewarded when I got to page 159, where somewhere in the
] middle it says "The mechanism for such 'bad craziness' can be
] intuitively..." -- then cites "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" by
] Hunter S Thompson!

I heard a story from the authors:  Apparently they used to drink/eat in
a place in Belgium where much of the writing / editing of the book
happened.  When the book was finished, they presented the owner of the
establishment with a copy. The owner displayed it proudly on his
counter.

Bob Bitmead called it the counter example.

Ciao,

Peter K.

I like "analog and digital communication systems" by Laithi, because in the
chapter about DPCM, he explains that electrical engineers can conjure the
spirits of the dead to aid them in the process of determining the
future...the rest of the book is  so-so but if i knew i could conjure the
spirits of the dead i would have said screw it to getting a job and just
raised an undead army to take over the world...but here I
sit...employed...
-Crim

>
>Hi Guys,
>
>  I posted the following inside a thread here, but 
>thought it might be mildly entertaining to whoever
>didn't read down through that particular thread.
>
>---
>  Something silly just occurred to me.
>
>Wanna hear a bit of "DSP-book trivia"?
>
>1) Grover's and Deller's wonderful book, "DSP With 
>Microcontrollers", is the only DSP book as far as 
>I know that contains a swear (curse) word.
>
>2) My book is the only DSP book, as far as I 
>know, that was mentioned on a nationally-syndicated 
>(in the U.S.) radio program.  It was the "Dr. Laura"
>radio program here in the U.S.
>
>Now Robert B-J, don't go "ballistic" when you read the 
>name "Dr. Laura".
>
>See Ya',
>[-Rick-]
>
>


		
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crimson_1190 wrote:

> I like "analog and digital communication systems" by Laithi, because in the
> chapter about DPCM, he explains that electrical engineers can conjure the
> spirits of the dead to aid them in the process of determining the
> future...the rest of the book is  so-so but if i knew i could conjure the
> spirits of the dead i would have said screw it to getting a job and just
> raised an undead army to take over the world...but here I
> sit...employed...
> -Crim


Is that the same Lathi of _Signals, Systems and Communications_ c1965?
Never found humor there. Then again I never graduated ;{


> 
> 
>>Hi Guys,
>>
>> I posted the following inside a thread here, but 
>>thought it might be mildly entertaining to whoever
>>didn't read down through that particular thread.
>>
>>---
>> Something silly just occurred to me.
>>
>>Wanna hear a bit of "DSP-book trivia"?
>>
>>1) Grover's and Deller's wonderful book, "DSP With 
>>Microcontrollers", is the only DSP book as far as 
>>I know that contains a swear (curse) word.
>>
>>2) My book is the only DSP book, as far as I 
>>know, that was mentioned on a nationally-syndicated 
>>(in the U.S.) radio program.  It was the "Dr. Laura"
>>radio program here in the U.S.
>>
>>Now Robert B-J, don't go "ballistic" when you read the 
>>name "Dr. Laura".
>>
>>See Ya',
>>[-Rick-]
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 		
> This message was sent using the Comp.DSP web interface on
> www.DSPRelated.com

If the jokes sounded like they were coming from your senile grandfather
after one too many sips of his special "tonic" then yeah...laithi is
so-so...the book for comm systems is okay...I mean i resent attempting to
teach a topic on pulse trains for PAM without any probability...trying to
step around it, though you need to calculate an autocorrelation with
it....just kind of passing it off as irrelevant.  Then when he does do
probability later in the book, not showing how the original problem
related.  He just goes on to solve austencibly the same problem a
different way.  the early chapters offered some insight into power signals
and energy signals...but the books width was too thin for the amount of
subject materical it was attempting to handle.  but being cynical and
overly critical is the same thing as real knowledge right???  oh well...it
is a good book to get if you are not paying for it.

-Crim

>crimson_1190 wrote:
>
>> I like "analog and digital communication systems" by Laithi, because in
the
>> chapter about DPCM, he explains that electrical engineers can conjure
the
>> spirits of the dead to aid them in the process of determining the
>> future...the rest of the book is  so-so but if i knew i could conjure
the
>> spirits of the dead i would have said screw it to getting a job and
just
>> raised an undead army to take over the world...but here I
>> sit...employed...
>> -Crim
>
>
>Is that the same Lathi of _Signals, Systems and Communications_ c1965?
>Never found humor there. Then again I never graduated ;{
>
>
>> 
>> 
>>>Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> I posted the following inside a thread here, but 
>>>thought it might be mildly entertaining to whoever
>>>didn't read down through that particular thread.
>>>
>>>---
>>> Something silly just occurred to me.
>>>
>>>Wanna hear a bit of "DSP-book trivia"?
>>>
>>>1) Grover's and Deller's wonderful book, "DSP With 
>>>Microcontrollers", is the only DSP book as far as 
>>>I know that contains a swear (curse) word.
>>>
>>>2) My book is the only DSP book, as far as I 
>>>know, that was mentioned on a nationally-syndicated 
>>>(in the U.S.) radio program.  It was the "Dr. Laura"
>>>radio program here in the U.S.
>>>
>>>Now Robert B-J, don't go "ballistic" when you read the 
>>>name "Dr. Laura".
>>>
>>>See Ya',
>>>[-Rick-]
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 		
>> This message was sent using the Comp.DSP web interface on
>> www.DSPRelated.com
>


		
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Peter K. wrote:
> ] I bought the book "Adaptive Optimal Control" by Bitmead, Gevers and
> ] Wertz because section 1.2 is titled "A Jaundiced View of Adaptive
> ] Control History".  I was mildly rewarded when it turned out to be an
> ] academically solid book, and accessible to the self-studier.  I was
> ] _infinitely_ rewarded when I got to page 159, where somewhere in the
> ] middle it says "The mechanism for such 'bad craziness' can be
> ] intuitively..." -- then cites "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" by
> ] Hunter S Thompson!
> 
> I heard a story from the authors:  Apparently they used to drink/eat in
> a place in Belgium where much of the writing / editing of the book
> happened.  When the book was finished, they presented the owner of the
> establishment with a copy. The owner displayed it proudly on his
> counter.
> 
> Bob Bitmead called it the counter example.

It's not a DSP book, but the author of my college diffeq book wrote that 
he preferred d/dx to superscript-dot notation because "Flies have been 
known to produce unwanted differentiations." It seemed very funny at the 
time.

Jerry
-- 
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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Hi guys,
This post may be very offending to Rick Lyons.
But this is what happened.
Thanks to recommendations all over the web and comp.dsp,
I went to the library and picked up Rick Lyons's book. The library had
only one copy and you know what I found on the first page???
The person who borrowed it before wrote this on it :  "Please throw
this book out of the library".
Now, obviously I was surprised. When I went through the pages I think I
understood.
The textbook we follow for DSP is Discrete Time Signal Processing by
Oppenheim.
As all of you know Oppenheim has a lot of Mathematics and all. So did
our term papers :(( . Rick's book may not have helped the guy  to
prepare for an examination for sure.

But then thats my 'naya paisa' worth opinion.

Can anybody tell me why anybody would hate Rick's book so much???