Q: Ad's VisualDSP (for Blackfin) with VMWare ?

Hi!

I am planning to use VisualDSP for a Blackfin project.

Now, as we are working only with Linux - have one of you gurus today running
the VDSP with W2000 by VMWare under Linux _and_ is able to use the USB-JTAG
emulator?

I googled only one negative report of this group five years ago.
Is it working now?

Thanx,
 Charlie

Karl M. Prager wrote:
> Now, as we are working only with Linux - have one of you gurus today running
> the VDSP with W2000 by VMWare under Linux _and_ is able to use the USB-JTAG
> emulator?

I gave something very similar to this a try last month.

I'm running WinXP under VMWare on a Fedora Core 3 Linux host.  I thought 
a USB emulator (for TigerSHARC) might be a good idea in this setup so I 
gave it a spin.

Unfortunately, it resisted my initial efforts, and I haven't had time to 
renew the attack.  I'll probably pick it up again sometime in the 
not-too-distant future.

But I might not.

We (BittWare) have a VisualDSP Target platform for our boards which 
means that VisualDSP can manipulate our boards almost exactly as if an 
emulator were connected.  Furthermore, the Target has the capability to 
be remote, so I can run VDSP on one machine and debug a board plugged 
into another.

It's also faster than the emulator.

Not that that helps you since you're using a Blackfin.  But maybe 
someone else has a Blackfin target?  It'd be worth looking into.

If I get TigerSHARC+USB-JTAG+WinXP+VMWare+Linux working, I'll post here, 
so watch this space.

-- 
Jim Thomas            Principal Applications Engineer  Bittware, Inc
jthomas@bittware.com  http://www.bittware.com    (603) 226-0404 x536
Today is the last day of your life so far.

Jim Thomas wrote:

> ...
> I'm running WinXP under VMWare on a Fedora Core 3 Linux host.  I thought
> a USB emulator (for TigerSHARC) might be a good idea in this setup so I
> gave it a spin.
> 
> Unfortunately, it resisted my initial efforts, and I haven't had time to
> renew the attack.  I'll probably pick it up again sometime in the
> not-too-distant future.

We got the info today from ADI that VDSP is running with W2K under VMWare
hosted by XP. But there were timeouts from the ICE cause of the slower
performance. ADI-Conclusio: not really recommended.

Anyway, maybe Linux is a better platform for VMWare :) so I'll try it befor
I take an extra PC under the desktop using VNC. I think I was reading
aboute some exotic device for USB over ethernet> So the DSP-PC would be in
the server room in the future. Who knows.

But there is also a Linux future! ADI gives also info that they are already
working on a native VDSP for linux. However with reduced functionality - at
least the ICE will be running. But if we, the community, gives attention to
this tool, I think maybe there will be some day a full version with graphic
and simulator? I hope so.

> We (BittWare) have a VisualDSP Target platform for our boards which
> ...

We noticed it already before!
It was discussed.

> If I get TigerSHARC+USB-JTAG+WinXP+VMWare+Linux working, I'll post here,
> so watch this space.

That's what I call a tool chain!!

Thank you!
Charlie

Karl M. Prager wrote:
> But there is also a Linux future! ADI gives also info that they are already
> working on a native VDSP for linux. However with reduced functionality - at
> least the ICE will be running. But if we, the community, gives attention to
> this tool, I think maybe there will be some day a full version with graphic
> and simulator? I hope so.

HOORAY!!!  That's the best news I've heard this month.  I've been asking 
ADI for this for six years!  The ONLY reason I ever have to run Windows 
is for VDSP.  Maybe soon I'll be able to hang my "WINDOWS FREE ZONE" 
police-line tape in my office.

The last time I talked to them about this they indicated that IF they 
did it, it would not be the full IDE.  Rather, they would port the 
compiler/linker/etc.  That's OK with me, because Linux IS an IDE.

> 
> 
>>We (BittWare) have a VisualDSP Target platform for our boards which
>>...
> 
> 
> We noticed it already before!
> It was discussed.

It works very well, so if you're looking for an endorsement for building 
a BF target, I can tell you that it works great for the TigerSHARC.

> 
> 
>>If I get TigerSHARC+USB-JTAG+WinXP+VMWare+Linux working, I'll post here,
>>so watch this space.
> 
> 
> That's what I call a tool chain!!

I guess ssh+VNC could be worked into that somewhere too, but why push it?

-- 
Jim Thomas            Principal Applications Engineer  Bittware, Inc
jthomas@bittware.com  http://www.bittware.com    (603) 226-0404 x536
When you have a new hammer, the whole world looks like a nail.

Jim Thomas wrote:

> Karl M. Prager wrote:
>> But there is also a Linux future! ADI gives also info that they are
>> already working on a native VDSP for linux. However with reduced
>> functionality - at least the ICE will be running. But if we, the
>> community, gives attention to this tool, I think maybe there will be some
>> day a full version with graphic and simulator? I hope so.
> 
> HOORAY!!!  That's the best news I've heard this month.  I've been asking
> ADI for this for six years!  The ONLY reason I ever have to run Windows
> is for VDSP.  Maybe soon I'll be able to hang my "WINDOWS FREE ZONE"
> police-line tape in my office.
> 
> The last time I talked to them about this they indicated that IF they
> did it, it would not be the full IDE.  Rather, they would port the
> compiler/linker/etc.  That's OK with me, because Linux IS an IDE.

Yep!
Let's wait to fall this year and see what is comming...
Unfortunately this is to late for our project.
Btw. _I_ didn't know that this was not commonly known.

ADI is interessted to work with beta testers.
I am sure dsptools support will give you further contact.

Bye,
 Charlie