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Wiley e-book has no program files

Started by michael46 July 27, 2005
I recently purchased from amazon the Wiley book by Rulph Chassaing entitled
"Digital Signal Processing and Applications with the C6713 and C6416 Dsk"
ISBN: B0007UAGAW

I have a Texas C6416 DSK and needed to quickly evaluate some code on 
this platform. Due to the urgency of the task I purchased the electronic 
version of the book as delivery of the hardback version was quoted as 
several days. However when I downloaded the book and started to read it 
I found that it was very limited in usefulness for my task as the CD ROM 
files that accompany the hardbook version where not delivered.

In the 'back cover description' of the book it says:
"
The tools needed to facilitate quick learning and enable readers to 
implement experiments and projects are included, such as:
*An accompanying CD-ROM that contains all the programs discussed in the 
book "
"

I complained to amazon but they completely refuse to let me have the CD 
files, very annoying as I paid more for the electronic version than the 
hardback with CD included price.
I complained to Wiley but they ignored me.

The book itself is a DSP textbook but that is not what I required, 
having studied DSP for over 30 years is of limited interest to me as a 
text book. My only reason for purchasing it was to save time evaluating 
the C6416 processor on the DSK, the electronic book without the CD files 
was of limited use in this respect.

I wonder if anyone knows where I may obtain the CD files without having 
to buy the book again in hardback version - which I am not willing to do.
Does it have price difference?
I am surprised.. why they don't include CD with the e-Book.


"michael46" <mj@nospam.net> wrote in message 
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>I recently purchased from amazon the Wiley book by Rulph Chassaing entitled > "Digital Signal Processing and Applications with the C6713 and C6416 Dsk" > ISBN: B0007UAGAW > > I have a Texas C6416 DSK and needed to quickly evaluate some code on this > platform. Due to the urgency of the task I purchased the electronic > version of the book as delivery of the hardback version was quoted as > several days. However when I downloaded the book and started to read it I > found that it was very limited in usefulness for my task as the CD ROM > files that accompany the hardbook version where not delivered. > > In the 'back cover description' of the book it says: > " > The tools needed to facilitate quick learning and enable readers to > implement experiments and projects are included, such as: > *An accompanying CD-ROM that contains all the programs discussed in the > book " > " > > I complained to amazon but they completely refuse to let me have the CD > files, very annoying as I paid more for the electronic version than the > hardback with CD included price. > I complained to Wiley but they ignored me. > > The book itself is a DSP textbook but that is not what I required, having > studied DSP for over 30 years is of limited interest to me as a text book. > My only reason for purchasing it was to save time evaluating the C6416 > processor on the DSK, the electronic book without the CD files was of > limited use in this respect. > > I wonder if anyone knows where I may obtain the CD files without having to > buy the book again in hardback version - which I am not willing to do.
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:33:19 -0400, "Nirav Shah" <niravbsh@usc.edu>
wrote:

>Does it have price difference? >I am surprised.. why they don't include CD with the e-Book.
Look for yourself, the e-book is priced at list, $115, whereas the hardover w/CD-ROM is 'discounted' from $115 to $103.72. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007UAGAW Looking at this page, it doesn't say one way or the other about the e-book coming with the files included in the CD-ROM. I've taken the liberty to copy the below post to an Amazon.com used-book seller's 'Soapbox' forum. It's probably not the right place to complain, but other sellers will see it as well as perhaps some of the 'right' people.
>"michael46" <mj@nospam.net> wrote in message >news:QZQFe.9406$m4.1088@newsfe1-win.ntli.net... >>I recently purchased from amazon the Wiley book by Rulph Chassaing entitled >> "Digital Signal Processing and Applications with the C6713 and C6416 Dsk" >> ISBN: B0007UAGAW >> >> I have a Texas C6416 DSK and needed to quickly evaluate some code on this >> platform. Due to the urgency of the task I purchased the electronic >> version of the book as delivery of the hardback version was quoted as >> several days. However when I downloaded the book and started to read it I >> found that it was very limited in usefulness for my task as the CD ROM >> files that accompany the hardbook version where not delivered. >> >> In the 'back cover description' of the book it says: >> " >> The tools needed to facilitate quick learning and enable readers to >> implement experiments and projects are included, such as: >> *An accompanying CD-ROM that contains all the programs discussed in the >> book " >> " >> >> I complained to amazon but they completely refuse to let me have the CD >> files, very annoying as I paid more for the electronic version than the >> hardback with CD included price. >> I complained to Wiley but they ignored me. >> >> The book itself is a DSP textbook but that is not what I required, having >> studied DSP for over 30 years is of limited interest to me as a text book. >> My only reason for purchasing it was to save time evaluating the C6416 >> processor on the DSK, the electronic book without the CD files was of >> limited use in this respect. >> >> I wonder if anyone knows where I may obtain the CD files without having to >> buy the book again in hardback version - which I am not willing to do. >
----- http://www.mindspring.com/~benbradley
Ben--
I have heard this a few times this year, so it must be true.Digital
editions are a big joke and neither the publisher nor the seller has any
clue over practical difficulties that digital edition brings.I recently
purchased an e-book for about 180$ only to find that I cant print it out!
Another one I bought allows me to print exactly one copy an year: Think
about,if my old printer fails print all the 600 pages without chewing few
of em, I have to wait another year to print the rest.Unless...unless
ofcourse I pre-date my system in which case the pdf will not open when
turn the clock back on to the current year! Add on top of this miseries of
Adobe's poor vision of DRM, its a royal mess to get into! 

Good ole printed book for me anyday, even if it means waiting for a month
for the delivery!

Anyways come back to your issues,Iam sure Proff.Chassaing would have
helped helped you and others had he been alive...I have already helped a
couple of guys earlier this years with the contents of the CD, I guess I
can do one more time and you do sound genuine. Mail me offline and I shall
send you the contents.Thats what Chassaing would have wanted I guess.

--Bhooshan
		
This message was sent using the Comp.DSP web interface on
www.DSPRelated.com
"bhooshaniyer" <bhooshaniyer@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have heard this a few times this year, so it must be true.Digital > editions are a big joke and neither the publisher nor the seller has any > clue over practical difficulties that digital edition brings.
Last early fall I purchased the eBook edition of Les Besser's "Practical RF Circuit Design for Modern Wireless Systems" and was immediately dismayed to find that you couldn't print out ANY pages. I went and rasied holy hell with anyone I could find at Amazon, the publisher, and Les Besser himself. I'm happy to say that not only did Amazon fully refund my purchase price, but Les Besser _called me personally_ and offered to send me the printed version _for free!_. I was satisfied with Amazon (besides refunding my money, they went ahead and published my one star "review" of the eBooks citing the "no print" policy -- it's still there today). Les Besser struck me as a completely upstanding guy, and I couldn't have been happier with him. On the other hand, Artech House, the publisher, came up a little wanting -- they sent me one of those lame "say nothing" responses that answered the question of "Why can't I print this eBook?" by citing "internal policies". Gee, thanks a lot.
> Another one I bought allows me to print exactly one copy an year: Think > about,if my old printer fails print all the 600 pages without chewing few > of em, I have to wait another year to print the rest.
Some have restrictions that are more like, "you can print 30 pages every month," which might work better in your case (although then it's going to take two years to print the entire thing, if that's what you really want). The biggest problem with digital rights management on eBooks is that sooner or later it's pretty much guaranteed that you'll want to transform the file to another computer, PDA, etc., and eventually you'll hit one with the DRM authentication is unavailable (e.g., Adobe tends to have weak to non-existant DRM support for PDF files on Linux and PDAs) or the authentictor has gone out of business or stopped support. (Do you really think that 30 years from now you'll still be able to re-activate an Adobe eBook you buy today? I wouldn't bet on it, yet there are plenty of 30 year old physical books that are quite valuable.) At that point you've lost the value of the book and will have to buy a "new" copy. ---Joel Kolstad
Joel Kolstad wrote:
> "bhooshaniyer" <bhooshaniyer@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:2OCdnVmVGbv5QXTfRVn-oQ@giganews.com... > >>I have heard this a few times this year, so it must be true.Digital >>editions are a big joke and neither the publisher nor the seller has any >>clue over practical difficulties that digital edition brings. > > > Last early fall I purchased the eBook edition of Les Besser's "Practical RF > Circuit Design for Modern Wireless Systems" and was immediately dismayed to > find that you couldn't print out ANY pages. I went and rasied holy hell with > anyone I could find at Amazon, the publisher, and Les Besser himself. I'm > happy to say that not only did Amazon fully refund my purchase price, but Les > Besser _called me personally_ and offered to send me the printed version _for > free!_. > > I was satisfied with Amazon (besides refunding my money, they went ahead and > published my one star "review" of the eBooks citing the "no print" policy -- > it's still there today). Les Besser struck me as a completely upstanding guy, > and I couldn't have been happier with him. On the other hand, Artech House, > the publisher, came up a little wanting -- they sent me one of those lame "say > nothing" responses that answered the question of "Why can't I print this > eBook?" by citing "internal policies". Gee, thanks a lot. > > >>Another one I bought allows me to print exactly one copy an year: Think >>about,if my old printer fails print all the 600 pages without chewing few >>of em, I have to wait another year to print the rest. > > > Some have restrictions that are more like, "you can print 30 pages every > month," which might work better in your case (although then it's going to take > two years to print the entire thing, if that's what you really want). > > The biggest problem with digital rights management on eBooks is that sooner or > later it's pretty much guaranteed that you'll want to transform the file to > another computer, PDA, etc., and eventually you'll hit one with the DRM > authentication is unavailable (e.g., Adobe tends to have weak to non-existant > DRM support for PDF files on Linux and PDAs) or the authentictor has gone out > of business or stopped support. (Do you really think that 30 years from now > you'll still be able to re-activate an Adobe eBook you buy today? I wouldn't > bet on it, yet there are plenty of 30 year old physical books that are quite > valuable.) At that point you've lost the value of the book and will have to > buy a "new" copy. > > ---Joel Kolstad > >
If you can even buy a "new" copy 30 years from now. There's knowledge in my 1933 ARRL handbook that just isn't available today in a readily available form. I wonder if you could just print to one of the public-domain pdf printer-to-pdf programs out there? Would you get your "one print per year" in the form of an unrestricted pdf? Those programs are nice. I use PDFCreator for just about anything that doesn't automatically generate pdf files (i.e. damn near everything I have). It's _very_ nice for generating files to email to folk. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com