Why aren't you both guys dealing with something more earthbound?I never bothered to deal with diracian functions.You should better persuade people *not* to use airconditions but use fans instead, preferably with some arguments (the chilling effect the fans work with) etc. -- Tzortzakakis Dimitrios major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr ? <quiasmox@yahoo.com> ?????? ??? ?????? news:1124568442.442918.246850@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...> > Polymath wrote: > > A good question indeed! > > > > And a question that the so-called experts and authors in this > > field fail to answer time and time again. > > > > The Diracian, or Unit Impulse is a very good mathematical tool > > to analyse the response of systems once a mathmatical model of > > those systems had been produced. > > > > It is, however, a poor mathematical claim to make that such > > impulses are found to be part of a system when neither the > > area nor the magnitude of such impulses are found anywhere in such > > systems. > > > > To those who ask, "Who cares? I get good results." , I suggest that > > their approach is unscientific and compares to the religious > > loonies who sacrifice goats and virgins to stop the Sun falling > > out of the sky and justify the continuing practice by the Sun > > remaining in the sky. > > > > So.....is the world of DSP a world of scientific men, or is > > it a world of snake-oil charlatans and of religious loonies? > > > > Where do these Diracian impulses come from? > > They're all the same, so they come right off dirac. > -- > john >
Changing the sampling rate of an audio signal.
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Dimitrios Tzortzakakis wrote:> Why aren't you both guys dealing with something more earthbound?I never > bothered to deal with diracian functions.You should better persuade people > *not* to use airconditions but use fans instead, preferably with some > arguments (the chilling effect the fans work with) etc.It's no good. The arguments just add heat. -- john
Reply by ●August 26, 20052005-08-26
Talking of snake-oil, where did the factor of "T" come from in your opening lines? Consider a 16-bit ADC capable of 100 M Samples per sec. In the first instance we'll use it to sample a geophysical signal of bandwidth limited to 300 HZ and sample at 1 kHz, with suitable analogue instrumentation to match the input signal to the full range of the ADC. If we now keep the circuit the same, but now sample at 65.536 MHZ, your claimed factor of "T" will result in the 16 bit range being compressed down to one bit. We know this doesn't happen -there will be more samples, but they'll still be of the same magnitude and 16-bit range. Assuming that we were able to generate a Diracian, and then produce a comb of them by delays and auperposition, there wouldn't be a factor of "T" in such superposition, so where does yours come from?> > robert bristow-johnson wrote: > > > > x(t)*q(t) = T*SUM{x[k]*d(t-k*T)} .------. > > x(t)--->(*)------------------------------------->| H(f) |---> x(t) > > ^ '------' > > | > > | +inf > > '------- q(t) = T * SUM{ d(t - k*T) } > > k=-inf > > > > > > where: d(t) = 'dirac' impulse function > > and T = 1/Fs = sampling period > > Fs = sampling frequency > > > > > > +inf > > q(t) = T * SUM{ d(t - k*T) } is the "sampling function", is periodic > > k=-inf with period T, and can be expressed as a > > Fourier series. It turns out that ALL of > > the Fourier coefficients are equal to 1.