Does anyone happen to know what changed with the 2nd edition of Lyons' DSP book? Is it mostly additions, or is the text re-edited? Also, what's with the Chinese printings that I've seen? Are those 'pirate' copies, or are they (low-quality?) legitimate printings for overseas markets.
Lyons' DSP book: 1st vs 2nd editions
Started by ●March 6, 2006
Reply by ●March 6, 20062006-03-06
_DS <_DS@nospam.com> wrote in news:kt4p029jktf5sc9ds648q78k0tjbp9ki4h@ 4ax.com:> Does anyone happen to know what changed with the 2nd edition of Lyons' > DSP book? Is it mostly additions, or is the text re-edited?I have both editions of Rick's book. He has added a lot of new content and it is well worth buying the newer edition even if you have the older. If you don't have the older, buy the newer version, not a used first edition. Rick's book is excellent. I often refer to it even though I have about 50 different DSP books.> > Also, what's with the Chinese printings that I've seen? Are those > 'pirate' copies, or are they (low-quality?) legitimate printings for > overseas markets. > >I have no idea. Buy a "real" copy. Rick need's to be able to buy me a beer once in awhile. -- Al Clark Danville Signal Processing, Inc. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Purveyors of Fine DSP Hardware and other Cool Stuff Available at http://www.danvillesignal.com
Reply by ●March 6, 20062006-03-06
> > Also, what's with the Chinese printings that I've seen? Are those > > 'pirate' copies, or are they (low-quality?) legitimate printings for > > overseas markets. > > I have no idea. Buy a "real" copy. Rick need's to be able to buy me a beer > once in awhile.The chinese printings have only front page (including the copyright info) and back page in chinese and english. The main text of the book is still in english. I think its cost is some where around 12US$. This is what I have seen in the market. so if Rick has permitted the chinese publisher than he is still getting some money to buy a half glass of beer for Al Clark. gold
Reply by ●March 7, 20062006-03-07
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:58:11 -0500, _DS <_DS@nospam.com> wrote:>Also, what's with the Chinese printings that I've seen? Are those >'pirate' copies, or are they (low-quality?) legitimate printings for >overseas markets.I've orderd my copy through amazon. The quality of the printing, paper and the binding are a little bit disappointing. It looks like it has been printed on an ink-jet printer. I'd buy a chinese copy, it can't be worse. (The content is great, though.) Chris
Reply by ●March 8, 20062006-03-08
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:58:11 -0500, _DS <_DS@nospam.com> wrote:>Does anyone happen to know what changed with the 2nd edition of Lyons' >DSP book? Is it mostly additions, or is the text re-edited? > >Also, what's with the Chinese printings that I've seen? Are those >'pirate' copies, or are they (low-quality?) legitimate printings for >overseas markets.Hi, The 2nd edition book contains, roughly, 200 pages of new DSP material beyond the 1st edition. *** Some Info on the 2nd Edition *** The 2nd edition expands a bit on several of the topics covered in the 1st edition; such as FIR and IIR filters, and the DFT. In addition, the 2nd edition's new material includes: 1) Expanded "quadrature processing" coverage including three-dimensional drawings to help the reader understand these two-dimensional quadrature (I & Q) signals. This is a tricky subject for beginners in signal processing, so I kept my coverage as gentle, thorough, and practical as I could. 2) Coverage of the Hilbert transform, theory and practical implementations, along with several techniques to generate an quadrature (analytic) signal from a real signal. 3) A new chapter on not-so-well-known FIR filters called: "frequency sampling", and "interpolated FIR" filters. These computationally efficient linear-phase FIR filters deserved coverage in a textbook. 4) Additional coverage of multirate systems (decimation and interpolation); including both an introduction to polyphase filters and a fairly detailed description of cascaded integrator-comb (CIC) FIR filters. 5) The book's 1st edition had 12 "tricks" in the popular "DSP Tricks" chapter. I've expanded that chapter to 33 separate DSP tricks. Regards, [-Rick-]
Reply by ●March 8, 20062006-03-08
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:37:23 GMT, Al Clark <dsp@danvillesignal.com> wrote:>_DS <_DS@nospam.com> wrote in news:kt4p029jktf5sc9ds648q78k0tjbp9ki4h@ >4ax.com: > >> Does anyone happen to know what changed with the 2nd edition of Lyons' >> DSP book? Is it mostly additions, or is the text re-edited? > >I have both editions of Rick's book. He has added a lot of new content and >it is well worth buying the newer edition even if you have the older. If >you don't have the older, buy the newer version, not a used first edition. > >Rick's book is excellent. I often refer to it even though I have about 50 >different DSP books.Hi Al, Thanks for kind words. Comin' from a guy like you, they mean a lot. Regards, [-Rick-]
Reply by ●March 8, 20062006-03-08
On 6 Mar 2006 17:51:25 -0800, "gold" <argon_gold@hotmail.com> wrote:>> > Also, what's with the Chinese printings that I've seen? Are those >> > 'pirate' copies, or are they (low-quality?) legitimate printings for >> > overseas markets. >> >> I have no idea. Buy a "real" copy. Rick need's to be able to buy me a beer >> once in awhile. > >The chinese printings have only front page (including the copyright >info) and back page in chinese and english. The main text of the book >is still in english. I think its cost is some where around 12US$. This >is what I have seen in the market. so if Rick has permitted the chinese >publisher than he is still getting some money to buy a half glass of >beer for Al Clark. > >goldHi gold, the Chinese folks negotiated with the publisher because the publisher owns the book rights, not me. My royalties from that Chinese-cover English-text version of the book were essentially zero. The book has been translated into Chinese. I'm tryin' to get my hands on a "Chinese" version, but I've unsuccessful so far. See Ya', [-Rick-]
Reply by ●March 8, 20062006-03-08
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:08:23 GMT, Christian S. <electronic@gmx.com> wrote:>On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:58:11 -0500, _DS <_DS@nospam.com> wrote: > >>Also, what's with the Chinese printings that I've seen? Are those >>'pirate' copies, or are they (low-quality?) legitimate printings for >>overseas markets. > >I've orderd my copy through amazon. The quality of the printing, paper >and the binding are a little bit disappointing. It looks like it has >been printed on an ink-jet printer. I'd buy a chinese copy, it can't >be worse. > >(The content is great, though.) > >ChrisHi Chris, I also bought a recent copy of my book from Amazon. I noticed that some of the shaded drawings didn't look right. Quizzing my publisher, I learned that they used a new "Printing Company" to print the 6th & 7th printings. The publisher told me they'll be using the original "Printing Company" (who printed the 1st-5th printings) from now on. This is good. Chris, send me an E-mail and I'll send you the errata. Reagrds, [-Rick-]
Reply by ●March 8, 20062006-03-08
Rick Lyons wrote:> On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:58:11 -0500, _DS <_DS@nospam.com> wrote: > > >>Does anyone happen to know what changed with the 2nd edition of Lyons' >>DSP book? Is it mostly additions, or is the text re-edited? >> >>Also, what's with the Chinese printings that I've seen? Are those >>'pirate' copies, or are they (low-quality?) legitimate printings for >>overseas markets. > > > Hi, > > The 2nd edition book contains, roughly, 200 pages of new > DSP material beyond the 1st edition. > > *** Some Info on the 2nd Edition *** > The 2nd edition expands a bit on several of the topics > covered in the 1st edition; such as FIR and IIR filters, > and the DFT.... But it still claims that ax^2 + bx + c has two factors. Tsk tsk. :-) Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
Reply by ●March 8, 20062006-03-08
Jerry Avins wrote:> Rick Lyons wrote: > >> On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:58:11 -0500, _DS <_DS@nospam.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Does anyone happen to know what changed with the 2nd edition of Lyons' >>> DSP book? Is it mostly additions, or is the text re-edited? >>> >>> Also, what's with the Chinese printings that I've seen? Are those >>> 'pirate' copies, or are they (low-quality?) legitimate printings for >>> overseas markets. >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> The 2nd edition book contains, roughly, 200 pages of new DSP material >> beyond the 1st edition. >> *** Some Info on the 2nd Edition *** The 2nd edition expands a >> bit on several of the topics covered in the 1st edition; such as FIR >> and IIR filters, and the DFT. > > > ... > > But it still claims that ax^2 + bx + c has two factors. Tsk tsk. :-) > > Jerryand *THIRD* is ? ?????? ;]
