I haven't had any math in over 40 years. "graph" has always meant plotting Y as function of x. I'm going to be using "graph" to at least three distinct *audiences* 1. Scilab news group when discussing Metanet This should cause no problem as using term Metanet sets context. 2. An engineering newsgroup whose normal use would of use re plotting a function, but would also be familiar with use describing a group of nodes and associated paths. 3. My employer who *PRIMARY* association with "graph" would be either a "bar chart" or a "pie chart". What term may I safely use in all contexts. In the third instance I'm not so concerned that they actually understand me, BUT that they can not come to the *FALSE* conclusion that they do understand me. PS - I'd not come across "graph" in this sense until three months ago. I now may be assured of a full night's sleep. Thank you.
[OT?] -- Unambiguous term for "graph"
Started by ●May 26, 2006
Reply by ●May 26, 20062006-05-26
"Richard Owlett" <rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote in message news:127eq9kamos6983@corp.supernews.com...> > I haven't had any math in over 40 years. > "graph" has always meant plotting Y as function of x. > > I'm going to be using "graph" to at least three distinct *audiences* > 1. Scilab news group when discussing Metanet > This should cause no problem as using term Metanet sets context. > 2. An engineering newsgroup whose normal use would of use re plotting > a function, but would also be familiar with use describing a group > of nodes and associated paths. > 3. My employer who *PRIMARY* association with "graph" would be either > a "bar chart" or a "pie chart". > > What term may I safely use in all contexts. In the third instance I'm not > so concerned that they actually understand me, BUT that they can not come > to the *FALSE* conclusion that they do understand me. > > PS - I'd not come across "graph" in this sense until three months ago. > I now may be assured of a full night's sleep. >http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Graph.html suggests that some people call it a "vertex-edge graph" for clarity but you could maybe as easilly call it a time and motion graph as far as your employer is concerned ? Best of Luck - Mike
Reply by ●May 26, 20062006-05-26
Mike Yarwood wrote:> "Richard Owlett" <rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote in message > news:127eq9kamos6983@corp.supernews.com... > >>I haven't had any math in over 40 years. >>"graph" has always meant plotting Y as function of x. >> >>I'm going to be using "graph" to at least three distinct *audiences* >> 1. Scilab news group when discussing Metanet >> This should cause no problem as using term Metanet sets context. >> 2. An engineering newsgroup whose normal use would of use re plotting >> a function, but would also be familiar with use describing a group >> of nodes and associated paths. >> 3. My employer who *PRIMARY* association with "graph" would be either >> a "bar chart" or a "pie chart". >> >>What term may I safely use in all contexts. In the third instance I'm not >>so concerned that they actually understand me, BUT that they can not come >>to the *FALSE* conclusion that they do understand me. >> >>PS - I'd not come across "graph" in this sense until three months ago. >> I now may be assured of a full night's sleep. >> > > http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Graph.html > suggests that some people call it a "vertex-edge graph" for clarity but you > could maybe as easilly call it a time and motion graph as far as your > employer is concerned ? > > Best of Luck - Mike > >I had looked at both http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Graph.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory . Neither seemed to encourage use of a specific term to convey idea to uninitiated. "vertex-edge graph" would clearly do for first two categories. For the third it would at least flag to intelligent manager that IT might need be consulted. Unfortunately I believe our IT people are EXTREMELY business oriented with little math background. I've just 'discovered' graphs. They are a great way of expressing why we couriers do routes as we do. I has promise of revising routes to save time and fuel. Gee, do i sound like someone who has just discovered a new toy ;/
Reply by ●May 27, 20062006-05-27
"Richard Owlett" <rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote in message news:127f3iosf7g63af@corp.supernews.com...> Mike Yarwood wrote: >> "Richard Owlett" <rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote in message >> news:127eq9kamos6983@corp.supernews.com... >><snip>> > I had looked at both http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Graph.html and > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory . Neither seemed to encourage > use of a specific term to convey idea to uninitiated. > > "vertex-edge graph" would clearly do for first two categories. > For the third it would at least flag to intelligent manager that IT might > need be consulted. Unfortunately I believe our IT people are EXTREMELY > business oriented with little math background.The nice thing about that page is the fairly detailed description of different classifications : If you really want to dlag that your IT people might want to pay attention you can always explain to them that you are dealing with time-varying, labelled,directed pseudographs ;>> > I've just 'discovered' graphs. > They are a great way of expressing why we couriers do routes as we do. > I has promise of revising routes to save time and fuel. > > Gee, do i sound like someone who has just discovered a new toy ;/Yeah, but it's a really neat one so you're entitled to show it off to all your friends. As you are planning the efficient delivery of medical supplies you could call it a Health and Efficiency Graph? (if you want to get your managers attention|^>) Best of Luck - Mike
Reply by ●May 27, 20062006-05-27
Richard Owlett wrote:> I haven't had any math in over 40 years. > "graph" has always meant plotting Y as function of x. > > I'm going to be using "graph" to at least three distinct *audiences* > 1. Scilab news group when discussing Metanet > This should cause no problem as using term Metanet sets context. > 2. An engineering newsgroup whose normal use would of use re plotting > a function, but would also be familiar with use describing a group > of nodes and associated paths. > 3. My employer who *PRIMARY* association with "graph" would be either > a "bar chart" or a "pie chart". > > What term may I safely use in all contexts. In the third instance I'm > not so concerned that they actually understand me, BUT that they can not > come to the *FALSE* conclusion that they do understand me.Heh, I can see your primary line of work shining through here. I've just been attended a safety course before going to sea, and lots of the stuff is centered around safe comminication and avoiding misunderstandings. As for your question: 1: I don't know. I am not familiar with that context. If this is the type of graphs occuring in the traveling salesman problem, use "node graph" or something similar. 2: I would use "function plot". If you don't want to use the term "plot," you might at least include the term "function." 3: Use the terms "graph" or "plot" as you see fit when presenting your own material, and make sure to use the term "chart" when discussing pie charts and bar charts.> PS - I'd not come across "graph" in this sense until three months ago. > I now may be assured of a full night's sleep.You may have noted in the past that I am a bit uptight about at least trying to use the correct terms in the correct contexts. Now you understand why. Rune