I've got an 9 year old grandson diagnosed with Asperger's and ADAS. Quite a handful. I don't doubt that he will do well academically if he isn't killed by the teachers first. He is being home schooled now, but he really has a tough time in group activities. Eric, if you think your son might have Asperger's, he probably does, since we (grand)parents usually look for the positives. My grandson is in therapy groups to try to help with his socializing and behavior control. Have seen some improvement but still a long way to go. The rule of thumb is to get them in therapy as early as possible. Please get him checked. Chip "Jerry Avins" <jya@ieee.org> wrote in message>> and i thought it was just me being anal (and we have a kid that we're >> thinking might be asperger's).> My Asperger's grandson was on the dean's list four semesters of community > college and has a full-tuition scholarship and work-study aid to finish up > at a four-year college. �������������������-- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
EE Times article on engineer brains.
Started by ●June 21, 2006
Reply by ●June 23, 20062006-06-23
Reply by ●June 27, 20062006-06-27
(Sorry to come in late on this). Interesting comment about the ability to rotate things in space mentally. This is always something I've found myself to be _bad_ at (and I'm not that great with sense of direction either), especially in comparison with colleagues, but I seem to do fine in engineering nonetheless. But it's probably a good thing I'm in DSP/embedded/hardware design instead of say mechanical design. BTW, I particularly liked this quote: '"If you were trying to predict success in engineering in terms of getting through engineering school and being successful in the occupation, the factors that would be very strongly important would be intellectual ability and interest in the engineering discipline," he said.' So in other words, to be an engineer, you have to be smart, and like engineering. What a revelation! :-) -- Jon Harris SPAM blocker in place: Remove 99 (but leave 7) to reply "Eric Jacobsen" <eric.jacobsen@ieee.org> wrote in message news:lb5j92dq7gc4fl3bv6e2jjpmq2cbarp3de@4ax.com...> The current issue of EE Times has an interesting article on some > characteristics of engineer's brains. It appears that comp.dsp > denizens are likely to be "highly systemizing" or "hypersystemizing", > that there are inherited physiological brain characteristics that go > with this, and this is also linked to a higher incidence of autism in > the children of engineers. > > It's in the June 19, 2006 edition, Page 12. At least part of it is > available on-line at > > http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=189401732 > > There are some sidebars in the print edition that don't seem to appear > on-line. > > I found it quite interesting and it helps show how different people > with different brain characteristics tend toward different careers. > > We're special. ;) > > Eric Jacobsen > Minister of Algorithms, Intel Corp. > My opinions may not be Intel's opinions. > http://www.ericjacobsen.org
Reply by ●June 27, 20062006-06-27
Jon Harris wrote:> (Sorry to come in late on this). > > Interesting comment about the ability to rotate things in space mentally. This > is always something I've found myself to be _bad_ at (and I'm not that great > with sense of direction either), especially in comparison with colleagues, but I > seem to do fine in engineering nonetheless. But it's probably a good thing I'm > in DSP/embedded/hardware design instead of say mechanical design.There are two prevailing sterotypes about engineers. The first is the geek, the other is the mad scientist. I believe the best engineers are some way half-way in between on that scale, but also have a strong inclination towards the arts. Having got to know the people here over the past few years, one might be surprised how many practice art in one way or another.> BTW, I particularly liked this quote: > '"If you were trying to predict success in engineering in terms of getting > through engineering school and being successful in the occupation, the factors > that would be very strongly important would be intellectual ability and interest > in the engineering discipline," he said.' > > So in other words, to be an engineer, you have to be smart, and like > engineering. What a revelation! :-)Maybe that was a tautology once. I am not sure it will stay that way for ever. Rune
Reply by ●June 27, 20062006-06-27
Rune Allnor wrote: ...> Having got to know the people here over the past few years, one might > be surprised how many practice art in one way or another.Not only engineers. One of my twin sisters is a professional cellist. (The other is a physician who plays violin in a local orchestra and chamber music with professionals.) One of her performing groups is a trio in which the other two members are a mathematician and a physicist. Her husband, who is also a physicist, paints lovely scenes and likenesses. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
Reply by ●June 27, 20062006-06-27
Jon Harris wrote:> (Sorry to come in late on this). > > Interesting comment about the ability to rotate things in space mentally. This > is always something I've found myself to be _bad_ at (and I'm not that great > with sense of direction either), especially in comparison with colleagues, but I > seem to do fine in engineering nonetheless. But it's probably a good thing I'm > in DSP/embedded/hardware design instead of say mechanical design.Ah, brings back memories of 40 years ago, +- ;/) I was flunking out of an Ivy League BSEE for N'th time. I was referred to university's "Testing and Guidance Center" My spatial relationships were too *LOW* for engineer My verbal aptitudes were too *HIGH* for engineer [ i approached lawyer ;] I spent >20 satisfying years as a tech. Would have spent more, but chose to peruse some other goals. [ right now I'm mentor to an "at risk", ADHD, possibly suicidal teen who hasn't lived with either parent for years. Along the way I had a part to play in a twenty-something going back to school after "dropping out". She's now on Dean's List.]> > BTW, I particularly liked this quote: > '"If you were trying to predict success*FIRST* WHAT IS SUCCESS? _(see above)_ in engineering in terms of getting> through engineering school and being successful in the occupation, the factors > that would be very strongly important would be intellectual ability and interest > in the engineering discipline," he said.' > > So in other words, to be an engineer, you have to be smart, and like > engineering. What a revelation! :-) >
Reply by ●June 27, 20062006-06-27
Richard Owlett wrote:> [ right now I'm mentor to an "at risk", ADHD, possibly suicidal teen who > hasn't lived with either parent for years. Along the way I had a part to > play in a twenty-something going back to school after "dropping out". > She's now on Dean's List.]That's the sort of thing that put mere engineering in perspective. Was this teen the same guy who got interested in reading? How did that turn out? Rune
Reply by ●June 27, 20062006-06-27
Rune Allnor wrote:> Richard Owlett wrote: > >>[ right now I'm mentor to an "at risk", ADHD, possibly suicidal teen who >>hasn't lived with either parent for years. Along the way I had a part to >>play in a twenty-something going back to school after "dropping out". >>She's now on Dean's List.] > > > That's the sort of thing that put mere engineering in perspective. > Was this teen the same guy who got interested in reading? How did > that turn out? > > Rune >Are you a parent? I'm a lifelong bachelor. Can you understand that "teen male" is synonym for "perverse" ;] Yepp. Same one. He wants rewards without the work. I've "blown his mind" on occasion by admitting I'm not perfect. Sunday was interesting. I was talking to him about COMPLETING projects. A middle aged man of congregation joined conversation agreeing with me. Kid went "HUH???" unrelated adult not known to be in cahoots with custodial grandparents is spouting same line as ... and ... and .... etc. You've given me a devious idea. expect private email
Reply by ●June 27, 20062006-06-27
Richard Owlett wrote:> Rune Allnor wrote: > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >>[ right now I'm mentor to an "at risk", ADHD, possibly suicidal teen who > >>hasn't lived with either parent for years. Along the way I had a part to > >>play in a twenty-something going back to school after "dropping out". > >>She's now on Dean's List.] > > > > > > That's the sort of thing that put mere engineering in perspective. > > Was this teen the same guy who got interested in reading? How did > > that turn out? > > > > Rune > > > > Are you a parent? I'm a lifelong bachelor.Not a parent, no.> Can you understand that "teen male" is synonym for "perverse" ;] > > Yepp. Same one. He wants rewards without the work.Don't we all...> I've "blown his mind" on occasion by admitting I'm not perfect.That's the hard part. For both of you.> Sunday was interesting. > I was talking to him about COMPLETING projects. > A middle aged man of congregation joined conversation agreeing with me. > Kid went "HUH???" > unrelated adult not known to be in cahoots with custodial > grandparents is spouting same line as ... and ... and .... etc. > > You've given me a devious idea. expect private emailThe email on my posts is bogus, and has been for a couple of years! Jerry knows a valid email for me, if he reads this post he might forward it to you. I will not be at a computer where I can read private mail for another two weeks or so. Rune
Reply by ●June 27, 20062006-06-27
Rune Allnor wrote:> Richard Owlett wrote: > >>Rune Allnor wrote: >> >>>Richard Owlett wrote: >>> >>> >>>>[ right now I'm mentor to an "at risk", ADHD, possibly suicidal teen who >>>>hasn't lived with either parent for years. Along the way I had a part to >>>>play in a twenty-something going back to school after "dropping out". >>>>She's now on Dean's List.] >>> >>> >>>That's the sort of thing that put mere engineering in perspective. >>>Was this teen the same guy who got interested in reading? How did >>>that turn out? >>> >>>Rune >>> >> >>Are you a parent? I'm a lifelong bachelor. > > > Not a parent, no. > > >>Can you understand that "teen male" is synonym for "perverse" ;] >> >>Yepp. Same one. He wants rewards without the work. > > > Don't we all... > > >>I've "blown his mind" on occasion by admitting I'm not perfect. > > > That's the hard part. For both of you. > > >>Sunday was interesting. >>I was talking to him about COMPLETING projects. >>A middle aged man of congregation joined conversation agreeing with me. >> Kid went "HUH???" >> unrelated adult not known to be in cahoots with custodial >> grandparents is spouting same line as ... and ... and .... etc. >> >>You've given me a devious idea. expect private email > > > The email on my posts is bogus, and has been for a couple of years! > Jerry knows a valid email for me, if he reads this post he might > forward > it to you. I will not be at a computer where I can read private mail > for > another two weeks or so. > > Rune >Have sent email that will obviously bounce. I'll send it to Jerry. He is already a consultant on project so it will allow him to add 2 cents.
Reply by ●June 28, 20062006-06-28
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:03:12 -0700, Eric Jacobsen <eric.jacobsen@ieee.org> wrote:>The current issue of EE Times has an interesting article on some >characteristics of engineer's brains. It appears that comp.dsp >denizens are likely to be "highly systemizing" or "hypersystemizing", >that there are inherited physiological brain characteristics that go >with this, and this is also linked to a higher incidence of autism in >the children of engineers. > >It's in the June 19, 2006 edition, Page 12. At least part of it is >available on-line at > >http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=189401732 > >There are some sidebars in the print edition that don't seem to appear >on-line. > >I found it quite interesting and it helps show how different people >with different brain characteristics tend toward different careers. > >We're special. ;) > >Eric Jacobsen >Minister of Algorithms, Intel Corp. >My opinions may not be Intel's opinions. >http://www.ericjacobsen.orgHi Eric, -------------------------------- If you talk about going to the moon, you're called a dreamer or a poet. If you actually go there, you're called an engineer. -------------------------------- A scientist discovers that which exists. An engineer creates that which never was. -------------------------------- If something works, thank an engineer. -------------------------------- See Ya', [-Rick-]
