A Text book on DSP!

Hi all,
   I have two questions and would be very grateful for getting answers.
1) Can someone recomend a good Text book on DSP? Which is simple to
understand and explains every thing which can be included in a
reasonable DSP curriculum.

2) Here is this book, "Introduction to Applied Mathematics" by Gilbert
Strang. I wanted to know that if someone takes it is up as a first text
for understanding DSP (things like FFT and Z transform) then how would
it be. Can someone kindly give a through review of the book?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
A

Raja wrote:
> Hi all,
>    I have two questions and would be very grateful for getting answers.
> 1) Can someone recomend a good Text book on DSP? Which is simple to
> understand and explains every thing which can be included in a
> reasonable DSP curriculum.

Lyons: "Understanding Digital Signal Processing", 2nd ed.,
   Prentice Hall, 2005

> 2) Here is this book, "Introduction to Applied Mathematics" by Gilbert
> Strang. I wanted to know that if someone takes it is up as a first text
> for understanding DSP (things like FFT and Z transform) then how would
> it be. Can someone kindly give a through review of the book?

Strang is a brilliant writer on maths. His books are definate first
choises
as *support* literature. He tends to lack a bit on the formals, though.


If you are about to teach a class, I'd say you should use some formal
text as compulsary reading on maths, and then recommend Strang
as voluntary supportive reading. If you are looking for books to use
yourself, my advice is to buy Strang's book now, but be prepared to
get another one in order to get the formal maths part.

The same goes for Lyons. He explans everything very well, in order
to see the big picture. If you have ambitions to get through the
formals of the maths, you would need an additional, more formal
book (Oppenheim & Schafer, or Proakis & Manolakis).

Rune

Rune,
  Well what should I say? U rock sir! Thankyou very much indeed. If you
could only recommend a cool book on formal Maths relevant to DSP it
would be great. I must reiterate that an easy to use text ref would be
highly appreciated.

Regards,
Adil Raja

Rune Allnor wrote:
> Raja wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >    I have two questions and would be very grateful for getting answers.
> > 1) Can someone recomend a good Text book on DSP? Which is simple to
> > understand and explains every thing which can be included in a
> > reasonable DSP curriculum.
>
> Lyons: "Understanding Digital Signal Processing", 2nd ed.,
>    Prentice Hall, 2005
>
> > 2) Here is this book, "Introduction to Applied Mathematics" by Gilbert
> > Strang. I wanted to know that if someone takes it is up as a first text
> > for understanding DSP (things like FFT and Z transform) then how would
> > it be. Can someone kindly give a through review of the book?
>
> Strang is a brilliant writer on maths. His books are definate first
> choises
> as *support* literature. He tends to lack a bit on the formals, though.
>
>
> If you are about to teach a class, I'd say you should use some formal
> text as compulsary reading on maths, and then recommend Strang
> as voluntary supportive reading. If you are looking for books to use
> yourself, my advice is to buy Strang's book now, but be prepared to
> get another one in order to get the formal maths part.
>
> The same goes for Lyons. He explans everything very well, in order
> to see the big picture. If you have ambitions to get through the
> formals of the maths, you would need an additional, more formal
> book (Oppenheim & Schafer, or Proakis & Manolakis).
> 
> Rune

Raja wrote:
> Rune,
>   Well what should I say? U rock sir!

Not much rock, but a little bit of roll. I'm at sea.

> Thankyou very much indeed. If you
> could only recommend a cool book on formal Maths relevant to DSP it
> would be great. I must reiterate that an easy to use text ref would be
> highly appreciated.

My personal favourite, the book by Proakis and Manolakis,

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0131873741/sr=8-1/qid=1151244887/ref=sr_1_1/102-7994021-5180110?ie=UTF8

has just been released in its 4th edition, Copyright 2007, no less.

Rune

> Regards,
> Adil Raja
>
> Rune Allnor wrote:
> > Raja wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >    I have two questions and would be very grateful for getting answers.
> > > 1) Can someone recomend a good Text book on DSP? Which is simple to
> > > understand and explains every thing which can be included in a
> > > reasonable DSP curriculum.
> >
> > Lyons: "Understanding Digital Signal Processing", 2nd ed.,
> >    Prentice Hall, 2005
> >
> > > 2) Here is this book, "Introduction to Applied Mathematics" by Gilbert
> > > Strang. I wanted to know that if someone takes it is up as a first text
> > > for understanding DSP (things like FFT and Z transform) then how would
> > > it be. Can someone kindly give a through review of the book?
> >
> > Strang is a brilliant writer on maths. His books are definate first
> > choises
> > as *support* literature. He tends to lack a bit on the formals, though.
> >
> >
> > If you are about to teach a class, I'd say you should use some formal
> > text as compulsary reading on maths, and then recommend Strang
> > as voluntary supportive reading. If you are looking for books to use
> > yourself, my advice is to buy Strang's book now, but be prepared to
> > get another one in order to get the formal maths part.
> >
> > The same goes for Lyons. He explans everything very well, in order
> > to see the big picture. If you have ambitions to get through the
> > formals of the maths, you would need an additional, more formal
> > book (Oppenheim & Schafer, or Proakis & Manolakis).
> > 
> > Rune

Rune Allnor wrote:

   ...

> My personal favourite, the book by Proakis and Manolakis,

   ...

> has just been released in its 4th edition, Copyright 2007, no less.

That may be the first of the discovered errata.

   ...

Jerry
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Jerry Avins wrote:
> Rune Allnor wrote:
>
>    ...
>
> > My personal favourite, the book by Proakis and Manolakis,
>
>    ...
>
> > has just been released in its 4th edition, Copyright 2007, no less.
>
> That may be the first of the discovered errata.

Maybe. I was pleased to see that the typos I found in the tables of
frequency transforms of IIR prototypes in edition 3 were corrected.

Rune

Jerry Avins mused:

> That may be the first of the discovered errata.

Oh, to have a book that is so nearly perfectly proof-read
that page iii of the front matter (in its entirety) reads as
follows:


                        ERRATA

(i)    On page iii, for ERRATA read ERRATUM






                          iii

dvsarwate@gmail.com wrote:
> Jerry Avins mused:
> 
>> That may be the first of the discovered errata.
> 
> Oh, to have a book that is so nearly perfectly proof-read
> that page iii of the front matter (in its entirety) reads as
> follows:
> 
> 
>                         ERRATA
> 
> (i)    On page iii, for ERRATA read ERRATUM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                           iii
> 

:-) !
-- 
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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dvsarwate@gmail.com wrote:
> Jerry Avins mused:
> 
>> That may be the first of the discovered errata.
> 
> Oh, to have a book that is so nearly perfectly proof-read
> that page iii of the front matter (in its entirety) reads as
> follows:
> 
> 
>                         ERRATA
> 
> (i)    On page iii, for ERRATA read ERRATUM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                           iii
> 

:-) !

Jerry
-- 
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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Raja wrote:
> [...]
> 2) Here is this book, "Introduction to Applied Mathematics" by Gilbert
> Strang. I wanted to know that if someone takes it is up as a first text
> for understanding DSP (things like FFT and Z transform) then how would
> it be. Can someone kindly give a through review of the book?

I haven't read this particular book, but I do have two or three of
Strang's other books and I agree with Rune's evaluation regarding
formalism.

May I suggest instead the text "Signals and Systems"
for this application. I have always loved this book,
and it perfectly fits the requirements you describe. It
is very formal, but also explicit enough for undergraduates
to pick up the concepts. It covers basic linear system theory
(linearity concepts, time-invariance, convolution),
continuous-time Fourier transforms and Fourier series,
the Laplace transform, the discrete Fourier transform,
the discrete-time Fourier transform, and the
z-transform (among other things).

--Randy