Hi Folks, I've noticed for some time now that the JAES has gotten into this mode of publishing some article or another under the umbrella of "Staff Writer." Why? There is something really annoying about that to me. I usually am annoyed enough to be turned off from reading the article. If I'm going to be "fed" something, I want to know where it is coming from. It seems a bit spineless to me that the JAES would do this, and I, as a paying member, would much rather see the true author of the articles I read. Just my $0.02. --Randy
Why Does the JAES Publish Articles Under the Authorship "Staff Writer"?
Started by ●July 6, 2006
Reply by ●July 7, 20062006-07-07
Randy Yates wrote:> Hi Folks, > > I've noticed for some time now that the JAES has gotten into this > mode of publishing some article or another under the umbrella of > "Staff Writer." > > Why? > > There is something really annoying about that to me. I usually > am annoyed enough to be turned off from reading the article. > If I'm going to be "fed" something, I want to know where it > is coming from. It seems a bit spineless to me that the > JAES would do this, and I, as a paying member, would > much rather see the true author of the articles I read. > > Just my $0.02. > > --RandyHello Randy, Imagine the other side of the coin. There is at least one writer out there that is not getting credit. If I write something, I want credit for it. Sometimes there is a valid reason for hiding one's identity, but it is usually it is hidden through some sort of pseudonym, so at some later time the correct author can be associated with the work. The statistician W. S. Gossett often published under the name of Student. He is the creator of the "Student T Distribution." He didn't want his employer to know he was publishing some research that the employer may not want the competition to have. But I don't think there is a famous theorem/relationship/identity called "Staff." Clay
Reply by ●July 7, 20062006-07-07
Clay wrote:> ... I don't think there is a famous > theorem/relationship/identity called "Staff."First names alone, although sometimes used by celebrities, are rarely used by authors. Mr. (assuming that Staff is a masculine name) Writer might someday come forward to identify himself. :-) Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
Reply by ●July 7, 20062006-07-07
Randy Yates wrote:> Hi Folks, > > I've noticed for some time now that the JAES has gotten into this > mode of publishing some article or another under the umbrella of > "Staff Writer."i have noticed that in the past year, about. and wondered a little about it.> Why?i dunno what the reason is. i might ask someone there why. one suspicion that i have is that the "Staff Writer" is getting paid to write something tutorial in the journal. now, if i want to publish something tutorial in the journal (as a regular paper or engineering report), it would have to be about something pretty current, that is on the cusp of salience to the AES community. i wouldn't get paid anything and i would get my name i pic in the journal. but i wonder if the journal editorial board made some decision(s) sometime that the AES community wanted to know some fundamental (tutorial) stuff about some topic or 'nother. so they say "we need some Feature Articles about this, this, and this. how are we gonna get these?" that's the same kinda question that a newpaper or magazine editorial board might ask, and they'll say "pay someone to do it." now sometimes there is a byline and sometimes not. that gets negotiated. as soon as some slug junior reporter thinks he wrote (without byline) some nice series of articles that might get that newspaper or magazine real happy with the work, and then they assign him another, he might say "yeah, but you gotta put in a byline or attribution." (he has his future career to think about.) it seems to me that the JAES is doing something like this that hasn't yet moved to attribution (along with the pay). they used to do those Feature Articles (you know, toward the back and with color graphics in them) that had named authors and i never found out if they were paid or not (i assumed not). but maybe now they are and the deal is they are anonymous (lest a lot of other want to jump on the bandwagon). i dunno. r b-j
Reply by ●July 7, 20062006-07-07
Randy Yates wrote:> Hi Folks, > > I've noticed for some time now that the JAES has gotten into this > mode of publishing some article or another under the umbrella of > "Staff Writer." > > Why?It *could* be that whatever is said in those articles is the official policy of the publisher of journal, as opposed to the personal opinion of the author. It's hard to tell without seeing an example of an article or knowing what is discussed. Rune
Reply by ●July 7, 20062006-07-07
Rune Allnor wrote:> Randy Yates wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> I've noticed for some time now that the JAES has gotten into this >> mode of publishing some article or another under the umbrella of >> "Staff Writer." >> >> Why? > > It *could* be that whatever is said in those articles is the > official policy of the publisher of journal, as opposed to the > personal opinion of the author. It's hard to tell without seeing > an example of an article or knowing what is discussed. > > Rune >Having read several of these, my understanding is that they stand apart from conventionally authored papers in that they seek to pull together in a summary or survey the substance of a number of published papers on a given topic (the most recent, for example, on "Enhanced Multichannel Audio"). In other words, such articles do not (claim to) contain any original work that would in itself warrant citation elsewhere, but rather merge topics from many authored papers to form a composite overview of current research.The "Staff" moniker makes it clear that it is referenced papers who should be cited in any new work, rather than the composite itself. This is just my guess, of course; the real reason could be something else entirely. My own feeling is that these Staff papers are immensely useful, and require considerable skill in the writing, to pull all that sometimes disparate material together (one can pay vast sums for books containing such chapters), and credit should indeed be able to be given where it is due! Richard Dobson
Reply by ●July 7, 20062006-07-07
Richard Dobson wrote:> Rune Allnor wrote: >> Randy Yates wrote: >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> I've noticed for some time now that the JAES has gotten into this >>> mode of publishing some article or another under the umbrella of >>> "Staff Writer." >>> >>> Why? >> >> It *could* be that whatever is said in those articles is the >> official policy of the publisher of journal, as opposed to the >> personal opinion of the author. It's hard to tell without seeing >> an example of an article or knowing what is discussed. >> >> Rune >> > > > Having read several of these, my understanding is that they stand apart > from conventionally authored papers in that they seek to pull together > in a summary or survey the substance of a number of published papers on > a given topic (the most recent, for example, on "Enhanced Multichannel > Audio"). In other words, such articles do not (claim to) contain any > original work that would in itself warrant citation elsewhere, but > rather merge topics from many authored papers to form a composite > overview of current research.The "Staff" moniker makes it clear that it > is referenced papers who should be cited in any new work, rather than > the composite itself. > > This is just my guess, of course; the real reason could be something > else entirely. My own feeling is that these Staff papers are immensely > useful, and require considerable skill in the writing, to pull all that > sometimes disparate material together (one can pay vast sums for books > containing such chapters), and credit should indeed be able to be given > where it is due!In some magazines -- Scientific American, for one -- staff writers have at least their initials at the end of the article, and in many, they are listed on the masthead page. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
Reply by ●July 7, 20062006-07-07
Randy Yates wrote:> I've noticed for some time now that the JAES has gotten into this > mode of publishing some article or another under the umbrella of > "Staff Writer."My suspicion is that the authors of these survey articles may actually be known researchers in the field, and they want to (or are required to) draw a line between their "journalistic" efforts and their "journal worthy" efforts. There are sometimes (very mild) opinions stated in these surveys that the authors might not otherwise feel comfortable expressing. David L. Rick Note: Header address is bot bait. Real humans may use: davidDOTrickAThachDOTcomREMOVE
Reply by ●July 10, 20062006-07-10
Hey Robert et al., Thanks for your responses. They are interesting to read. I think it is a discredit to the JAES. I think they ought to identify the author(s) of any significant article in the journal. If the article is a different "type," e.g., a "tutorial" rather than a paper or engineering report, then it could be reported as such in the table of contents. I say this not to help the writer(s) get credit, but to discourage the propagation of anonymity and lack of tracability in our information sources. JAES should avoid the web problem in which a firehose of information is available but in which the authority and/or reliability of the information is in question. I'm sorry, but simply saying it is from "AES Staff" does not cover it, in my book. My $0.02. --Randy
Reply by ●July 10, 20062006-07-10
Randy Yates wrote:> Hey Robert et al., > > Thanks for your responses. They are > interesting to read. > > I think it is a discredit to the JAES. I think > they ought to identify the author(s) of any > significant article in the journal. If the > article is a different "type," e.g., a > "tutorial" rather than a paper or > engineering report, then it could > be reported as such in the table > of contents. > > I say this not to help the writer(s) get > credit, but to discourage the propagation > of anonymity and lack of tracability in our > information sources. JAES should avoid > the web problem in which a firehose of > information is available but in which > the authority and/or reliability of the > information is in question. I'm sorry, > but simply saying it is from "AES Staff" > does not cover it, in my book.That's a good point that the editors never considered. Why not tell them how you feel? Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������






