Career in DSP

Hi,
I've been writing embedded telecomm software for a few years and I'm now
thinking of going back to get an MSEE in order to do digital signal
processing professionally. What advice would a seasoned engineer give
someone thinking about a career in this field? 
Thanks in advance!
George

migo wrote:
> Hi,
> I've been writing embedded telecomm software for a few years and I'm now
> thinking of going back to get an MSEE in order to do digital signal
> processing professionally. What advice would a seasoned engineer give
> someone thinking about a career in this field?
> Thanks in advance!
> George

Depends on why you are doing it.  If it is to increase your technical
knowledge, then by all means pursue it.  If you are expecting to get a
"better" job, forget it.

I speak from having done exactly what you are thinking about.  The MSEE
was worth it from a personal development standpoint but absolutely
worthless in trying to secure a better job.

I finally tossed in the EE towel.  I spent an additional 4 years of
evenings and weekends  and holidays to obtain an MSCS.  This has proved
to be a much better investment in terms of career paths, potential, and
compensation.

Good luck.

nobody wrote:
> migo wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I've been writing embedded telecomm software for a few years and I'm now
>> thinking of going back to get an MSEE in order to do digital signal
>> processing professionally. What advice would a seasoned engineer give
>> someone thinking about a career in this field?
>> Thanks in advance!
>> George
> 
> Depends on why you are doing it.  If it is to increase your technical
> knowledge, then by all means pursue it.  If you are expecting to get a
> "better" job, forget it.
> 
> I speak from having done exactly what you are thinking about.  The MSEE
> was worth it from a personal development standpoint but absolutely
> worthless in trying to secure a better job.
> 
> I finally tossed in the EE towel.  I spent an additional 4 years of
> evenings and weekends  and holidays to obtain an MSCS.  This has proved
> to be a much better investment in terms of career paths, potential, and
> compensation.

Is that how you ended up being a nobody?

Jerry
-- 
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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nobody wrote:
> migo wrote:
>
> > I've been writing embedded telecomm software for a few years and I'm now
> > thinking of going back to get an MSEE in order to do digital signal
> > processing professionally. What advice would a seasoned engineer give
> > someone thinking about a career in this field?
>
> Depends on why you are doing it.  If it is to increase your technical
> knowledge, then by all means pursue it.  If you are expecting to get a
> "better" job, forget it.
>
> I speak from having done exactly what you are thinking about.  The MSEE
> was worth it from a personal development standpoint but absolutely
> worthless in trying to secure a better job.

"better" means a variety of things.  maybe the OP wants a more
interesting job.  maybe the OP is willing to move somewhere else and/or
take a pay cut for it.  dunno if there is still money in DSP in telcom
and wireless, but i s'pose what makes the most money is what the market
most wants to see done.  maybe not.  i dunno.

sometimes DSP is very interesting stuff, but work is work.  DSP coding
and even the more elegant mathematical algorithmic "composition" has
tedious moments in it.

r b-j

i would suggest you to follow what you want to take up. Do MSEE, it
would be better to have knowledge of all related things and then may be
who knows, with existing embedded software and knowledge through MSEE
you can set up some company. This is what happened with rajeev,
MAGMA-DA and other great people, they put up their brain where nobody
have ever ventured..(for this practical knowledge and where to put that
practical knowledge is obtained through the educational and overall
knowledge obtained through MSEE)

so, even NOBODY, i should call him great as he suggested right thing.

regards
particle

Jerry Avins wrote:
> nobody wrote:
> > migo wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I've been writing embedded telecomm software for a few years and I'm n=
ow
> >> thinking of going back to get an MSEE in order to do digital signal
> >> processing professionally. What advice would a seasoned engineer give
> >> someone thinking about a career in this field?
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >> George
> >
> > Depends on why you are doing it.  If it is to increase your technical
> > knowledge, then by all means pursue it.  If you are expecting to get a
> > "better" job, forget it.
> >
> > I speak from having done exactly what you are thinking about.  The MSEE
> > was worth it from a personal development standpoint but absolutely
> > worthless in trying to secure a better job.
> >
> > I finally tossed in the EE towel.  I spent an additional 4 years of
> > evenings and weekends  and holidays to obtain an MSCS.  This has proved
> > to be a much better investment in terms of career paths, potential, and
> > compensation.
>
> Is that how you ended up being a nobody?
>
> Jerry
> --
> Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
> =AF=AF=AF=AF

No smart guy.  A "screen name" is irrelevant.  Whether it be "stray
dawg" or "nobody".


If you read my post carefully, you will see that I suggest that the guy
get an MSEE because he wants to study the material.   I also suggest
that he pursue other avenues if he is just looking to make more money
or move up the ladder.  An MBA, MSCS, or IT degree are much more
saleable in terms of salary than an MSEE.

EE's stay EE's because they love engineering, not because of the money
or the work environment.  I have been one for over 30 years.  In order
to stay in the field I have had to change with technology and the
times.  That is what real engineers do.  In this day and age, much of
engineering is related to CS.  A BSCS or MSCS degree greatly enhances
an EE in a number of ways.  Not the least of which is broading and
lengthing an EE's career.






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nobody wrote:

>>>I finally tossed in the EE towel.  I spent an additional 4 years of
>>>evenings and weekends  and holidays to obtain an MSCS.  This has proved
>>>to be a much better investment in terms of career paths, potential, and
>>>compensation.
>>
>>Is that how you ended up being a nobody?
>> 
> No smart guy.  A "screen name" is irrelevant.  Whether it be "stray
> dawg" or "nobody".

No wonder. Slaves are afraid that their masters can recognize them.

> 
> EE's stay EE's because they love engineering, not because of the money
> or the work environment.  I have been one for over 30 years.

An engineer is no more then a tool. Somewhat similar to the power 
screwdriver. However the screwdrivers are usually free from many bad 
habits that the engineers do have. I feel sorry to those who are over 30 
however they still didn't realize that.


>  In order 
> to stay in the field I have had to change with technology and the
> times.  That is what real engineers do.

But you didn't change your philosophy.


VLV

Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote:
> 
> 
> nobody wrote:
> 
>>>> I finally tossed in the EE towel.  I spent an additional 4 years of
>>>> evenings and weekends  and holidays to obtain an MSCS.  This has proved
>>>> to be a much better investment in terms of career paths, potential, and
>>>> compensation.
>>>
>>> Is that how you ended up being a nobody?
>>>
>> No smart guy.  A "screen name" is irrelevant.  Whether it be "stray
>> dawg" or "nobody".
> 
> No wonder. Slaves are afraid that their masters can recognize them.
> 
>>
>> EE's stay EE's because they love engineering, not because of the money
>> or the work environment.  I have been one for over 30 years.
> 
> An engineer is no more then a tool. Somewhat similar to the power 
> screwdriver. However the screwdrivers are usually free from many bad 
> habits that the engineers do have. I feel sorry to those who are over 30 
> however they still didn't realize that.
> 
> 
>>  In order to stay in the field I have had to change with technology 
>> and the
>> times.  That is what real engineers do.
> 
> But you didn't change your philosophy.
> 
> 
> VLV

Vladimir,

Your message seems to be addressed to me, but there is evidently a 
missing message. Perhaps "nobody" deleted his response to me (which you 
quote but that I don't see) when he realized that my remark was -- for 
better or worse -- intended to be humor.

Jerry
-- 
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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"nobody" <rock_sci@hotmail.com> writes:
> [...]
> A "screen name" is irrelevant.  

If I cannot ascertain someone's identity, then anything they have to
say is likewise irrelevent. 
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"Randy Yates" <yates@ieee.org> wrote in message 
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> "nobody" <rock_sci@hotmail.com> writes:
>> [...]
>> A "screen name" is irrelevant.
>
> If I cannot ascertain someone's identity, then anything they have to
> say is likewise irrelevent.

An interesting point of view.  What do you mean, though, by "cannot 
ascertain" ?  For instance, I post here rather infrequently.  I don't bother 
to mask my identity, but does anyone here *know* me?  Is my opinion somehow 
more relevant because there seems to be a "real name" associated with it?

   Best wishes,
   --Phil Martel

> -- 
> %  Randy Yates                  % "Maybe one day I'll feel her cold 
> embrace,
> %% Fuquay-Varina, NC            %                    and kiss her 
> interface,
> %%% 919-577-9882                %            til then, I'll leave her 
> alone."
> %%%% <yates@ieee.org>           %        'Yours Truly, 2095', *Time*, ELO
> http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr