IEEE Explore

Hi All,

I have been trying (and failing, mostly) to use IEEE Explore to search
for articles etc. recently.

Has anyone else had problems?

I've contacted the IEEE (both member services and the ombudsman)
because I think the way it currently doesn't work is a tradgedy.

I would encourage any other IEEE members to also make their feelings
know.

If you disagree, please let me know about that too... maybe I can't
drive IE or Firefox?

Thanks,

Peter K.

Peter K. skrev:
> Hi All,
>
> I have been trying (and failing, mostly) to use IEEE Explore to search
> for articles etc. recently.
>
> Has anyone else had problems?

I don't even get to the ieee.org frontpage. But then, I'm browsing
via a very low capacity link. 

Rune

"Peter K." <p.kootsookos@iolfree.ie> wrote in news:1159368463.315925.64320
@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

> I have been trying (and failing, mostly) to use IEEE Explore to search
> for articles etc. recently.
> 
> Has anyone else had problems?
> 
> 

I haven't used their search engine, but I have gotten plenty of articles 
off of Explore after Google Scholar (which is fantastic) pointed me at 
them.

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Scott
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Scott Seidman wrote:

> I haven't used their search engine, but I have gotten plenty of articles
> off of Explore after Google Scholar (which is fantastic) pointed me at
> them.

Yes, that' s part of my gripe: free services like Google and Citeseer
tend to do a better job than the search facilities on Explore.

They'd be better off just making the content available and cutting a
deal with Google for appropriate indexing and availability through
something like Google Scholar.

I don't want my member dues wasted on poor services.

Ciao,

Peter K.

Rune Allnor wrote:

> I don't even get to the ieee.org frontpage. But then, I'm browsing
> via a very low capacity link.

You're not missing much, unfortunately!

Ciao,

Peter K.

"Peter K." <p.kootsookos@iolfree.ie> wrote in news:1159369874.517505.208890
@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

> 
> Scott Seidman wrote:
> 
>> I haven't used their search engine, but I have gotten plenty of articles
>> off of Explore after Google Scholar (which is fantastic) pointed me at
>> them.
> 
> Yes, that' s part of my gripe: free services like Google and Citeseer
> tend to do a better job than the search facilities on Explore.
> 
> They'd be better off just making the content available and cutting a
> deal with Google for appropriate indexing and availability through
> something like Google Scholar.
> 
> I don't want my member dues wasted on poor services.
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> Peter K.
> 
> 


The IEEE journals are already indexed at google scholar.  There are options 
for "library" patrons to automatically get links.  Info can be found at 
http://scholar.google.com/intl/en/scholar/libraries.html.  I suggest 
contacting the IEEE electronic librarian with this info
-- 
Scott
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"Peter K." <p.kootsookos@iolfree.ie> wrote in message
news:1159368463.315925.64320@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Hi All,
>
> I have been trying (and failing, mostly) to use IEEE Explore to search
> for articles etc. recently.
>
> Has anyone else had problems?
>
> I've contacted the IEEE (both member services and the ombudsman)
> because I think the way it currently doesn't work is a tradgedy.
>
> I would encourage any other IEEE members to also make their feelings
> know.
>
> If you disagree, please let me know about that too... maybe I can't
> drive IE or Firefox?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter K.
>
It does work if you use to correctly.You need the right keywords though.

M.



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Hello Peter,

> 
> I have been trying (and failing, mostly) to use IEEE Explore to search
> for articles etc. recently.
> 
> Has anyone else had problems?
> 
> I've contacted the IEEE (both member services and the ombudsman)
> because I think the way it currently doesn't work is a tradgedy.
> 
> I would encourage any other IEEE members to also make their feelings
> know.
> 

IEEE has the unfortunate tendency to over-sophisticate just about 
everything. I made my feelings known numerous times but it feels like 
kicking a big oak tree. For example, about the virtual communities which 
IMHO are a full-blown failure. Ok, now I am on a team there to evaluate 
other options but my wish to at least try out a simple newsreader format 
have not been heard :-(


> If you disagree, please let me know about that too... maybe I can't
> drive IE or Firefox?
> 

Web services should work (and be tested!) with all popular browsers, 
plus be tested for sufficient simplicity and low-BW dial-up connections. 
Not everyone lives in broadband areas or can afford it. Unfortunately 
that is not understood by many IT "experts". Certainly not at IEEE.

-- 
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Major Misunderstanding wrote:

>
> It does work if you use to correctly.You need the right keywords though.
>

Rubbish! I use the right keywords, and it doesn't show up items that I
know are in there.

The system is broken and should be removed; as Scott pointed out,
Scholar does a MUCH better job of indexing than IEEE does itself.

Ciao,

Peter K.

"Peter K." <p.kootsookos@iolfree.ie> writes:

> Major Misunderstanding wrote:
>
>>
>> It does work if you use to correctly.You need the right keywords though.
>>
>
> Rubbish! I use the right keywords, and it doesn't show up items that I
> know are in there.

Peter, can you give a specific example and let me try on my end?
I'm pretty sure I'll get the same results - I just want to see
it for myself.
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