Hi all, I am about to finish my PhD in the emphasis in communications, coding theory and signal processing. I have a good understanding of theory of DSP and Comm. but I never work at industry ( I mean never wrote DSP code on code composer for example). How should I advertise myself for industry position after my PhD? Thanking you in anticipation
General advice
Started by ●January 11, 2007
Reply by ●January 11, 20072007-01-11
zafartaha wrote:> Hi all, > > I am about to finish my PhD in the emphasis in communications, coding > theory and signal processing. I have a good understanding of theory of DSP > and Comm. but I never work at industry ( I mean never wrote DSP code on > code composer for example). > > How should I advertise myself for industry position after my PhD? > > Thanking you in anticipationif it were the music/audio industry, i might suggest not mentioning your PhD. (*I* don't have a problem with it, but some employers *may*.) r b-j
Reply by ●January 12, 20072007-01-12
"zafartaha" <zqtaha@gmail.com> wrote in message news:yLKdnYwXb7KqXTvYnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com...> Hi all, > > I am about to finish my PhD in the emphasis in communications, coding > theory and signal processing. I have a good understanding of theory of DSP > and Comm. but I never work at industry ( I mean never wrote DSP code on > code composer for example).That astounds me. How did/what did you do your thesis/dissertation on that didn't require at least *some* hands on with a dev. kit or such?> > How should I advertise myself for industry position after my PhD? > > Thanking you in anticipation > >Given what you've said, I think you would have better luck in a University or govt setting--at least initially. Good luck.... Bo>
Reply by ●January 12, 20072007-01-12
robert bristow-johnson wrote:> zafartaha wrote: > > Hi all, > > > I am about to finish my PhD in the emphasis in communications, coding > > theory and signal processing. I have a good understanding of theory of DSP > > and Comm. but I never work at industry ( I mean never wrote DSP code on > > code composer for example). > > > How should I advertise myself for industry position after my PhD? > > > Thanking you in anticipationif it were the music/audio industry, i might suggest not mentioning > your PhD. > > (*I* don't have a problem with it, but some employers *may*.)Why? Sounds like a solid basis for music / audio DSP work.
Reply by ●January 12, 20072007-01-12
Andor wrote:>> >>>Thanking you in anticipationif it were the music/audio industry, i might suggest not mentioning >> >>your PhD. >> >>(*I* don't have a problem with it, but some employers *may*.) > > > Why? Sounds like a solid basis for music / audio DSP work. >Having a PhD and going to the industry seems like pretending to be expensive and looking for a position of a boss. Also, many industry folks have burned with the worseless "PhDs without the PIDs". Vladimir Vassilevsky DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant http://www.abvolt.com
Reply by ●January 12, 20072007-01-12
Andor wrote:> > robert bristow-johnson wrote: > >>zafartaha wrote: >> >>>Hi all, >> >>>I am about to finish my PhD in the emphasis in communications, coding >>>theory and signal processing. I have a good understanding of theory of DSP >>>and Comm. but I never work at industry ( I mean never wrote DSP code on >>>code composer for example). >> >>>How should I advertise myself for industry position after my PhD? >> >>>Thanking you in anticipationif it were the music/audio industry, i might suggest not mentioning >> >>your PhD. >> >>(*I* don't have a problem with it, but some employers *may*.) > > > Why? Sounds like a solid basis for music / audio DSP work. >The stereotype is that while PhD's are well versed in theory, they have little or no experience in practical application. There is usually a large delta between practical and theoretical implementations. I'd rather hire someone who I know can get the project working but might have to brush up on some of the theory than hire someone who knows how it is supposed to work but hasn't got the experience to actually make it so. My experience indicates the stereotype is well founded, and this guy here just supports that stereotype. I've also found that even without practical experience, PhD's seem to feel that they should command higher starting wages than someone with a lesser degree but more practical experience.
Reply by ●January 12, 20072007-01-12
Thanks for all comments, Recently I started to practice on TMS320C55x to improve my knowledge about implements algorithms on DSP and I find the reading very comfortable. I am going to work on some example applications both filtering tasks and analysis task. What is your opinion on such an effort? Thanks Zafar>Andor wrote: >> >> robert bristow-johnson wrote: >> >>>zafartaha wrote: >>> >>>>Hi all, >>> >>>>I am about to finish my PhD in the emphasis in communications, coding >>>>theory and signal processing. I have a good understanding of theory ofDSP>>>>and Comm. but I never work at industry ( I mean never wrote DSP codeon>>>>code composer for example). >>> >>>>How should I advertise myself for industry position after my PhD? >>> >>>>Thanking you in anticipationif it were the music/audio industry, imight suggest not mentioning>>> >>>your PhD. >>> >>>(*I* don't have a problem with it, but some employers *may*.) >> >> >> Why? Sounds like a solid basis for music / audio DSP work. >> > >The stereotype is that while PhD's are well versed in theory, they have >little or no experience in practical application. There is usually a >large delta between practical and theoretical implementations. I'd >rather hire someone who I know can get the project working but might >have to brush up on some of the theory than hire someone who knows how >it is supposed to work but hasn't got the experience to actually make it>so. My experience indicates the stereotype is well founded, and this >guy here just supports that stereotype. I've also found that even >without practical experience, PhD's seem to feel that they should >command higher starting wages than someone with a lesser degree but more>practical experience. >
Reply by ●January 12, 20072007-01-12
good and well,
For those who all told..i will tell an example..of
a person...who did all his studies in instrumentation..start his
bachelors,masters..and PhD and then he jumped into VLSI field..and
along with masters students even after completing his PhD he sat for
DSP classes..result..today he is a cool owner of 65 top class patents
in vlsi and owns two core ASIC designing companies in india...
so moral of the story is it is immaterial..when you are high degree
holder or any..start from scratch..accelerate your learning..you will
succeed at any point of time..
if you see the kind of questions asked and the kind of replies
(excellent queries and exceptional answeries)..i wonder..everyone here
should be..CEO of some company...but then why..does a chemical
engineering background..girl..PADMASHREE warrior became..CEO of
motorola... ??? any replies
its about..way..
particlereddy
(Back in business after long time)
zafartaha wrote:
> Thanks for all comments,
>
> Recently I started to practice on TMS320C55x to improve my knowledge about
> implements algorithms on DSP and I find the reading very comfortable. I am
> going to work on some example applications both filtering tasks and
> analysis task.
>
> What is your opinion on such an effort?
>
> Thanks
>
> Zafar
>
>
>
> >Andor wrote:
> >>
> >> robert bristow-johnson wrote:
> >>
> >>>zafartaha wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Hi all,
> >>>
> >>>>I am about to finish my PhD in the emphasis in communications, coding
> >>>>theory and signal processing. I have a good understanding of theory of
> DSP
> >>>>and Comm. but I never work at industry ( I mean never wrote DSP code
> on
> >>>>code composer for example).
> >>>
> >>>>How should I advertise myself for industry position after my PhD?
> >>>
> >>>>Thanking you in anticipationif it were the music/audio industry, i
> might suggest not mentioning
> >>>
> >>>your PhD.
> >>>
> >>>(*I* don't have a problem with it, but some employers *may*.)
> >>
> >>
> >> Why? Sounds like a solid basis for music / audio DSP work.
> >>
> >
> >The stereotype is that while PhD's are well versed in theory, they have
> >little or no experience in practical application. There is usually a
> >large delta between practical and theoretical implementations. I'd
> >rather hire someone who I know can get the project working but might
> >have to brush up on some of the theory than hire someone who knows how
> >it is supposed to work but hasn't got the experience to actually make it
>
> >so. My experience indicates the stereotype is well founded, and this
> >guy here just supports that stereotype. I've also found that even
> >without practical experience, PhD's seem to feel that they should
> >command higher starting wages than someone with a lesser degree but more
>
> >practical experience.
> >
Reply by ●January 12, 20072007-01-12
zafartaha wrote:> Thanks for all comments, > > Recently I started to practice on TMS320C55x to improve my knowledge about > implements algorithms on DSP and I find the reading very comfortable. I am > going to work on some example applications both filtering tasks and > analysis task. > > What is your opinion on such an effort?Waste of time... for a "Ph.D. career" Is your purpose to have a nice-paying job ASAP or a life-long career ? Those two are not the same.
Reply by ●January 12, 20072007-01-12
"Bo" <bo@cephus.com> wrote in message news:5d5fa$45a7b45e$41a26d4d$20920@API-DIGITAL.COM...> > "zafartaha" <zqtaha@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:yLKdnYwXb7KqXTvYnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com... >> Hi all, >> >> I am about to finish my PhD in the emphasis in communications, coding >> theory and signal processing. I have a good understanding of theory of >> DSP >> and Comm. but I never work at industry ( I mean never wrote DSP code on >> code composer for example). > > That astounds me. How did/what did you do your thesis/dissertation on that > didn't require at least *some* hands on with a dev. kit or such? > >> >> How should I advertise myself for industry position after my PhD? >> >> Thanking you in anticipation >> >> > Given what you've said, I think you would have better luck in a University > or govt setting--at least initially. > > Good luck.... > > Bo>Bo, Been around a grad school any time in the last 50 years? "kit" indeed! Such things don't get pubs for the advisor and are much more likely in an undergraduate or maybe Masters program. Perhaps my view is unfair to a few - but I'll bet a very few! I agree that a major university lab (as in Applied Physics Laboratory) or a government lab are great places to work if one is more research oriented. But, that's not what the OP indicates. As many times here before, the best advice is to get a job that may require some of the education some of the time. In the mean time, to get a job, continue with the projects with real stuff to show that you can hit the ground running. Fred
