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OT: IEEE Page Charges

Started by I. R. Khan January 22, 2007
Hi all,

Please forgive me for this off-topic, but I think many of you can give 
an advice based on your experiences. IEEE asks for optional 110 dollars 
per page for publishing papers. How do people generally respond to this 
request? Does IEEE really need this support? Does it affect the chances 
of acceptance of your future papers, if you do not pay?

Regards,
Ishtiaq.
"I. R. Khan" <ir_khan@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all, > > Please forgive me for this off-topic, but I think many of you can give > an advice based on your experiences. IEEE asks for optional 110 dollars > per page for publishing papers. How do people generally respond to this > request? Does IEEE really need this support? Does it affect the chances > of acceptance of your future papers, if you do not pay? > > Regards, > Ishtiaq.
The page charges thing is only after it has been accepted and not when it is under review. It's a bit of a bloomin cheek if you ask me - journals need to have things nearly print-ready nowadays and they even want us to pay them?!! F. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I. R. Khan wrote:
> > Please forgive me for this off-topic, but I think many of you can give > an advice based on your experiences. IEEE asks for optional 110 dollars > per page for publishing papers. How do people generally respond to this > request? Does IEEE really need this support? Does it affect the chances > of acceptance of your future papers, if you do not pay?
perhaps consider publication somewhere else. IEEE is not the end all and be all of things DSP or even of things EE. the fact that they do this is proof, as i see it, that the IEEE Transactions exist not for the benefit of the reader (who ostensibly would want to learn something new) but for the benefit of the academics who need a publication outlet for the sake of their C.V. (what the rest of us might call our "resume"). might add another example to the term "academic narciscism". kinda like these "vanity presses" that will publish your book for you. (i don't need them. hell, i'm gonna put "Time magazine Person of the Year, 2006" on my resume. who needs to publish in IEEE Transactions any more?) r b-j
Fitlike Min wrote:
> "I. R. Khan" <ir_khan@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:ep1m76$oqk$1@aioe.org... >> Hi all, >> >> Please forgive me for this off-topic, but I think many of you can give >> an advice based on your experiences. IEEE asks for optional 110 dollars >> per page for publishing papers. How do people generally respond to this >> request? Does IEEE really need this support? Does it affect the chances >> of acceptance of your future papers, if you do not pay? >> >> Regards, >> Ishtiaq. > > The page charges thing is only after it has been accepted and not when it is > under review.
Yes, but if you do not pay this time, your next paper might be assigned to some "killer" Associate Editor / reviewers. This is highly unlikely but still, who knows?
> It's a bit of a bloomin cheek if you ask me - journals need to have things > nearly print-ready nowadays and they even want us to pay them?!! > > F. > > >
"robert bristow-johnson" <rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote in 
news:1169527154.492569.190390@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:

> > I. R. Khan wrote: >> >> Please forgive me for this off-topic, but I think many of you can give >> an advice based on your experiences. IEEE asks for optional 110
dollars
>> per page for publishing papers. How do people generally respond to
this
>> request? Does IEEE really need this support? Does it affect the
chances
>> of acceptance of your future papers, if you do not pay? > > perhaps consider publication somewhere else. IEEE is not the end all > and be all of things DSP or even of things EE. > > the fact that they do this is proof, as i see it, that the IEEE > Transactions exist not for the benefit of the reader (who ostensibly > would want to learn something new) but for the benefit of the academics > who need a publication outlet for the sake of their C.V. (what the > rest of us might call our "resume"). might add another example to the > term "academic narciscism". kinda like these "vanity presses" that > will publish your book for you. (i don't need them. hell, i'm gonna > put "Time magazine Person of the Year, 2006" on my resume. who needs to > publish in IEEE Transactions any more?) > > r b-j > >
Boy, for a journal that nobody besides academics needs, there sure has been alot of whining about how much you have to pay to read it. -- Scott Reverse name to reply
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:39:32 +0900, "I. R. Khan"
<ir_khan@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi all, > >Please forgive me for this off-topic, but I think many of you can give >an advice based on your experiences. IEEE asks for optional 110 dollars >per page for publishing papers. How do people generally respond to this >request? Does IEEE really need this support? Does it affect the chances >of acceptance of your future papers, if you do not pay? > >Regards, >Ishtiaq.
Hello Ishtiaq, Gosh, what you write is new to me. Will you please tell us what IEEE publication (the name of the journal or transaction) that is asking you to pay money? Thanks, [-Rick-]
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:04:00 +1300, "Fitlike Min"
<Fitlike@naeoption.com> wrote:

> >"I. R. Khan" <ir_khan@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:ep1m76$oqk$1@aioe.org... >> Hi all, >> >> Please forgive me for this off-topic, but I think many of you can give >> an advice based on your experiences. IEEE asks for optional 110 dollars >> per page for publishing papers. How do people generally respond to this >> request? Does IEEE really need this support? Does it affect the chances >> of acceptance of your future papers, if you do not pay? >> >> Regards, >> Ishtiaq. > >The page charges thing is only after it has been accepted and not when it is >under review. >It's a bit of a bloomin cheek if you ask me - journals need to have things >nearly print-ready nowadays and they even want us to pay them?!! > >F.
Hi, maybe I missed something in this thread. Is the money requested of Ishtiaq intended to pay for "reformatting" so that his manuscript complies with the IEEE typesetter's required format (for text, equations, & artwork)? [-Rick-]
Rick Lyons wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:39:32 +0900, "I. R. Khan" > <ir_khan@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Please forgive me for this off-topic, but I think many of you can give >> an advice based on your experiences. IEEE asks for optional 110 dollars >> per page for publishing papers. How do people generally respond to this >> request? Does IEEE really need this support? Does it affect the chances >> of acceptance of your future papers, if you do not pay? >> >> Regards, >> Ishtiaq. > > Hello Ishtiaq, > Gosh, what you write is new to me. > Will you please tell us what IEEE > publication (the name of the journal or transaction) > that is asking you to pay money? > > Thanks, > [-Rick-] >
Hi Rick, I think most of the IEEE Transactions ask for this payment. This is voluntary payment of 110 dollars per page. However, if the paper is longer than the specified limit, the payment is mandatory for extra pages at a higher rate. For example, you can refer to IEEE Trans. Multimedia. Please read the last section at the following site: http://www.ieee.org/organizations/society/sp/tmm/infotmm.html Regards, Ishtiaq.
Rick Lyons wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:04:00 +1300, "Fitlike Min" > <Fitlike@naeoption.com> wrote: > >> "I. R. Khan" <ir_khan@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:ep1m76$oqk$1@aioe.org... >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Please forgive me for this off-topic, but I think many of you can give >>> an advice based on your experiences. IEEE asks for optional 110 dollars >>> per page for publishing papers. How do people generally respond to this >>> request? Does IEEE really need this support? Does it affect the chances >>> of acceptance of your future papers, if you do not pay? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ishtiaq. >> The page charges thing is only after it has been accepted and not when it is >> under review. >> It's a bit of a bloomin cheek if you ask me - journals need to have things >> nearly print-ready nowadays and they even want us to pay them?!! >> >> F. > > Hi, > maybe I missed something in this thread. > Is the money requested of Ishtiaq intended > to pay for "reformatting" so that his > manuscript complies with the IEEE typesetter's > required format (for text, equations, & artwork)? > > [-Rick-] >
Hi Rick, I prepared my manuscript using their style file. The money is not for reformatting. It is "to cover part of the cost of publication," in their words. Ishtiaq.
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:33:16 +0900, "I. R. Khan"
<ir_khan@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:

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>> >> Thanks, >> [-Rick-] >> > >Hi Rick, > >I think most of the IEEE Transactions ask for this payment. This is >voluntary payment of 110 dollars per page. However, if the paper is >longer than the specified limit, the payment is mandatory for extra >pages at a higher rate. > >For example, you can refer to IEEE Trans. Multimedia. Please read the >last section at the following site: >http://www.ieee.org/organizations/society/sp/tmm/infotmm.html > >Regards, >Ishtiaq.
Hi Ishtiaq, That was educational for me. Thanks. [-Rick-]