On 9 Apr, 03:15, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:> dbd wrote: > > On Apr 8, 1:55 pm, "Rune Allnor" <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote: > >> On 8 Apr, 20:38, "dbd" <d...@ieee.org> wrote: > > >>> [books] available for sale used. > >> To paraphrase some madman from times long since past: > > >> "I would never buy a used book from somebody who might > >> consider selling his copy." >...> I think I know what Rune means. Too often, someone selling his books > selects for sale those he thinks are inferior,Exactly. When I go to a bookstore to spend $50 - $100 on a book, I very carefully selects exactly what copy to buy. Never the one first in line, which everybody have browsed. The rest, I look over for scratches and bruises. I walk away with the copy which compares most favourably among the ones available. I have even walked away from buying books for the very reason that the available copies were not in suffciently good condition. The most recent one when that happened, was a $10 paperback which back cover was torn. The first thing I do when I come home, is to wrap paperbacks with a protective plastic coat. I have paperack textbooks from 20 years ago which are in better condition now than my fellow student's copies were three months into the semester. And yes, I *did* use my copy as much as they used theirs... To me, my books are as important tools as a hammer is to a carpenter or a wrench to a mechanic. My work is not so often about me doing my own stuff, as me applying techniques and methods I find in my books to solve real-world problems. Rune
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On 9 Apr, 01:49, "dbd" <d...@ieee.org> wrote:> Rune, what is your position on libraries? Would you never borrow a > book from somebody who would consider lending his copy to you?I didn't answer the second question first time around, did I... When I was freshly hired in the job which later became my PhD scholarship, I needed a book on some esoteric subject which was just about to become the buzzword of the time (I think it was Genetic Algorithms, but that's not important). I searcehd the nation-wide library archive and found one or two copies registred at the libraries of some other universities, both of which were reserved for other lenders for weeks and months to come. I decided to buy my own copy for department money, and went to see the department secretary to hear what was the proper procedure. "Just leave the name of the author and title with me, and I will handle it" she said. And she did. By the book. Which meant that she registered my copy with the nation-wide library archive before she handed me "my" copy as a library loan, on library terms. The consequence was that I spent the next year fighting off lending requests from all over the country -- "my" copy was the third registered nation-wide, and everyone wanted to lend it. Of course, I needed it (that was why I had bought it) but still had to write a formal response as to why every four weeks, when my lending had to be formally renewed. Not at all amusing. I never checked a book in with the library ever again. If I bought a book for departement money -- as opposed to buying it privately for my own money -- I checked it in with the department as "office inventory" or something like that, never "book". I doubt my experiences are unique, so I guess the answer to your question is that what I might be interested in lending by all probability is not offered through the library system. Rune
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Rune Allnor wrote: ...> To me, my books are as important tools as a hammer is to a > carpenter or a wrench to a mechanic. My work is not so often > about me doing my own stuff, as me applying techniques and > methods I find in my books to solve real-world problems."I don't know, but I know where to look it up" is a very accptable answer to most questions. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
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On Apr 9, 9:34 am, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:> Rune Allnor wrote: > > ... > > > To me, my books are as important tools as a hammer is to a > > carpenter or a wrench to a mechanic. My work is not so often > > about me doing my own stuff, as me applying techniques and > > methods I find in my books to solve real-world problems. >Rune and I agree on the value of books and the practical necessity of maintaining a personal library. For those who have not spent decades as personal librarians, there are sources of books that exist today and can be used. New personal librarians don't have the same resources we used in decades past. they also have resources available that weren't in the past. You have to read as carefully on the net as anywhere else. Amazon lists the print to order books as print to order. How could one consider 'new' in a web context to mean 'uncirculated' and more than 15 years in storage?> "I don't know, but I know where to look it up" is a very accptable > answer to most questions. > > Jerry > -- > Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. > =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF==AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF "I don't know, but I know where to look it up" is a powerful stance in the real world. I have great respect for it and strive to practice it on topics of interest outside my immediate endeavours(Hopefully, there I've already looked it up). But, it is not a useful or meaningful answer to a question in comp.dsp or any other usenet group. Dale B. Dalrymple http://dbdimages.com
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dbd wrote: ...> "I don't know, but I know where to look it up" is a powerful stance in > the real world. I have great respect for it and strive to practice it > on topics of interest outside my immediate endeavours(Hopefully, there > I've already looked it up). But, it is not a useful or meaningful > answer to a question in comp.dsp or any other usenet group.It is if you do look it up and interpret what you find for the OP at a level you think he can absorb. :-) Sometimes, telling the OP where it can be (or might have been) looked up is also appropriate. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Reply by ●April 9, 20072007-04-09
On Apr 9, 1:09 pm, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:> dbd wrote: > > ... > > > "I don't know, but I know where to look it up" is a powerful stance in > > the real world. I have great respect for it and strive to practice it > > on topics of interest outside my immediate endeavours(Hopefully, there > > I've already looked it up). But, it is not a useful or meaningful > > answer to a question in comp.dsp or any other usenet group. > > It is if you do look it up and interpret what you find for the OP at a > level you think he can absorb. :-) Sometimes, telling the OP where it > can be (or might have been) looked up is also appropriate. > > Jerry > -- > Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. > =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF==AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF Yes Jerry, you do need to interpret it or tell the OP where to look, not just say: "I don't know, but I know where to look it up". I agree with you as well as Rune. Dale B. Dalrymple http://dbdimages.com
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dbd wrote:> On Apr 9, 1:09 pm, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote: >> dbd wrote: >> >> ... >> >>> "I don't know, but I know where to look it up" is a powerful stance in >>> the real world. I have great respect for it and strive to practice it >>> on topics of interest outside my immediate endeavours(Hopefully, there >>> I've already looked it up). But, it is not a useful or meaningful >>> answer to a question in comp.dsp or any other usenet group. >> It is if you do look it up and interpret what you find for the OP at a >> level you think he can absorb. :-) Sometimes, telling the OP where it >> can be (or might have been) looked up is also appropriate. >> >> Jerry >> -- >> Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. >> ����������������������������������������������������������������������� > > Yes Jerry, you do need to interpret it or tell the OP where to look, > not just say: > "I don't know, but I know where to look it up". I agree with you as > well as Rune.We agree. Knowing where to look it up is the important part. The best way to use the knowledge depends on circumstance. I took "I don't know, but I know where to look it up" as metaphor. You had no way to know that I didn't intend it always literally. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
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Jerry Avins wrote:> > "I don't know, but I know where to look it up" is a very accptable > answer to most questions. > > JerryThat was essentially the definition of an engineer given by Prof. Ecicson, then dean of Cornell's College of Engineering to the entering freshmen 9/61. His contrasting definition of a scientist was one who discovered the "answer". [loose paraphrase]
Reply by ●April 9, 20072007-04-09
On 9 Apr, 20:38, "dbd" <d...@ieee.org> wrote:> You have to read as carefully on the net as anywhere else. Amazon > lists the print to order books as print to order. How could one > consider 'new' in a web context to mean 'uncirculated' and more than > 15 years in storage?Not necessarily "15 years in storage", but publishers *have* been known to uccationaly re-print older titles...> "I don't know, but I know where to look it up" is a powerful stance in > the real world. I have great respect for it and strive to practice it > on topics of interest outside my immediate endeavours(Hopefully, there > I've already looked it up). But, it is not a useful or meaningful > answer to a question in comp.dsp or any other usenet group.I have *have* posted answers to similar effect on a number of occations. "Look in text so-and-so by author this-and-that, look for keyword whatever." Whether those sorts of replies have been *useful* to the askers, is an as of yet unansewred question, though... Rune
