I need Manual

Hi,
      I need the Solution Manual of
            Engineering Electromagnetics 7/e by William Hyat.
 Please Send me this manual as soon as possible.
                       Thank You

On Nov 18, 10:10 am, eemasaddi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>       I need the Solution Manual of
>             Engineering Electromagnetics 7/e by William Hyat.
>  Please Send me this manual as soon as possible.

does this not seem, at least a teeny-weeny amount, a bit presumptuous?

>                        Thank You

i didn't get the mailing address to send the solutions manual to you.
would you mind posting your name and address to the newsgroup?  don't
send me email, it's a bogus address. :-\   i'd be happy to cover the
cost of the manual and shipping expenses for you.

r b-j

I caught part of a TV news show that discussed the current crop of
college graduates.  Apparently they've grown up in an environment
where everything is "free";  free intellectual property (music, books,
research papers, TV shows -- it's all online and nobody has to pay for
it), free money (from Mom and Dad, of course).  After college they're
refusing to get jobs and leave home.  It's the age of entitlement,
just demand it and it appears magically.

They blamed Mr. Rogers.  Yes, THAT Mr. Rogers, from "Mr. Rogers'
Neighborhood".  They said that he spent too much time telling kids
that they were all special, and not enough telling them that everyone
else is special, too.  Fred Rogers must be spinning in his grave.

Greg Berchin wrote:
> I caught part of a TV news show that discussed the current crop of
> college graduates.  Apparently they've grown up in an environment
> where everything is "free";  free intellectual property (music, books,
> research papers, TV shows -- it's all online and nobody has to pay for
> it), free money (from Mom and Dad, of course).  After college they're
> refusing to get jobs and leave home.  It's the age of entitlement,
> just demand it and it appears magically.
> 
> They blamed Mr. Rogers.  Yes, THAT Mr. Rogers, from "Mr. Rogers'
> Neighborhood".  They said that he spent too much time telling kids
> that they were all special, and not enough telling them that everyone
> else is special, too.  Fred Rogers must be spinning in his grave.

It goes back another generation than Mr. Rogers. When "safety nets" 
(although that use of term came later) of Social Security etc were 
turned into ENTITLEMENTS. And Dr. Spock didn't help either.

Richard Owlett wrote:
> Greg Berchin wrote:
>> I caught part of a TV news show that discussed the current crop of
>> college graduates.  Apparently they've grown up in an environment
>> where everything is "free";  free intellectual property (music, books,
>> research papers, TV shows -- it's all online and nobody has to pay for
>> it), free money (from Mom and Dad, of course).  After college they're
>> refusing to get jobs and leave home.  It's the age of entitlement,
>> just demand it and it appears magically.
>>
>> They blamed Mr. Rogers.  Yes, THAT Mr. Rogers, from "Mr. Rogers'
>> Neighborhood".  They said that he spent too much time telling kids
>> that they were all special, and not enough telling them that everyone
>> else is special, too.  Fred Rogers must be spinning in his grave.
> 
> It goes back another generation than Mr. Rogers. When "safety nets" 
> (although that use of term came later) of Social Security etc were 
> turned into ENTITLEMENTS. And Dr. Spock didn't help either.

You would rather see a return to debtor's prison?

Jerry
-- 
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On Nov 19, 11:22 am, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:

> You would rather see a return to debtor's prison?

It's been the same since the cave man.  The current generation
perceives the next generation as lazy, worthless, and unmotivated.
Yet the next generation somehow always manages to muddle through long
enough to think the same about the generation that follows.

Jerry Avins wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
> 
>> Greg Berchin wrote:
>>
>>> I caught part of a TV news show that discussed the current crop of
>>> college graduates.  Apparently they've grown up in an environment
>>> where everything is "free";  free intellectual property (music, books,
>>> research papers, TV shows -- it's all online and nobody has to pay for
>>> it), free money (from Mom and Dad, of course).  After college they're
>>> refusing to get jobs and leave home.  It's the age of entitlement,
>>> just demand it and it appears magically.
>>>
>>> They blamed Mr. Rogers.  Yes, THAT Mr. Rogers, from "Mr. Rogers'
>>> Neighborhood".  They said that he spent too much time telling kids
>>> that they were all special, and not enough telling them that everyone
>>> else is special, too.  Fred Rogers must be spinning in his grave.
>>
>>
>> It goes back another generation than Mr. Rogers. When "safety nets" 
>> (although that use of term came later) of Social Security etc were 
>> turned into ENTITLEMENTS. And Dr. Spock didn't help either.
> 
> 
> You would rather see a return to debtor's prison?
> 
> Jerry

No, just that its gone too far in other direction.

I'm reminded of story in _Analog_ in the Campbell era satirizing 
overuse/misuse of "insurance" be cause it doesn't "cost" anything when 
used. Think it was by Heinlein.

Greg Berchin wrote:
> On Nov 19, 11:22 am, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:
> 
>> You would rather see a return to debtor's prison?
> 
> It's been the same since the cave man.  The current generation
> perceives the next generation as lazy, worthless, and unmotivated.
> Yet the next generation somehow always manages to muddle through long
> enough to think the same about the generation that follows.

You have sound supporting evidence for that view? My observation is that 
when times are tough youngsters rise to the challenge, and when times 
are easy they go soft. Sadly, it seems bad for human beings to have a 
nice life. A spoiled child is just one that never hit any challenges at all.

When I worked in the US for a short time, many of the young white 
engineers told me they expected to spend most of their life working for 
an Asian boss. The reasoning was the Asians were the only ones who 
actually bothered to study at college. This was not an older generation 
thinking the youngsters are slackers. It was the youngsters themselves. 
It turns out they were wrong. Most of the Chinese I know in China, with 
kids at college, find their kids have gone too soft to bother studying. 
Maybe the white youths of America are safe from the invaders after all. :-)

Regards,
Steve

On Nov 20, 6:29 am, Steve Underwood <ste...@dis.org> wrote:
> Greg Berchin wrote:
> > On Nov 19, 11:22 am, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >> You would rather see a return to debtor's prison?
>
> > It's been the same since the cave man.  The current generation
> > perceives the next generation as lazy, worthless, and unmotivated.
> > Yet the next generation somehow always manages to muddle through long
> > enough to think the same about the generation that follows.
>
> You have sound supporting evidence for that view? My observation is that
> when times are tough youngsters rise to the challenge, and when times
> are easy they go soft. Sadly, it seems bad for human beings to have a
> nice life. A spoiled child is just one that never hit any challenges at all.
>
> When I worked in the US for a short time, many of the young white
> engineers told me they expected to spend most of their life working for
> an Asian boss. The reasoning was the Asians were the only ones who
> actually bothered to study at college. This was not an older generation
> thinking the youngsters are slackers. It was the youngsters themselves.
> It turns out they were wrong. Most of the Chinese I know in China, with
> kids at college, find their kids have gone too soft to bother studying.
> Maybe the white youths of America are safe from the invaders after all. :-)
>
> Regards,
> Steve


ALL,
I am afraid that the discussion in the thread deviated from the
original topic. Personally, when I was an engineering student and
chanced to read a course on Electromagnetics, I realized that the book
" Engineering Electromagnetics 7/e by William Hyat" was too difficult
for one and only course in the subject.
During my visit to purdue, I was in search of Mr. William Hyat to tell
him that I hate him for his book, and was told that the book was
written very long ago and no one knew about his where-abouts. (Books
containing too complex mathematics are obsolete now.
perhaps !!!!!!!!!)       :-)

Any way, I wish best of luck for the original poster and wish he gets
an understanding of subject, even with the help of a solution manual.

/Eldon

On Nov 19, 8:29 pm, Steve Underwood <ste...@dis.org> wrote:
>
> When I worked in the US for a short time, many of the young white
> engineers told me they expected to spend most of their life working for
> an Asian boss. The reasoning was the Asians were the only ones who
> actually bothered to study at college.

i work for an Asian boss (well, the boss of my boss is Asian) and
while there are certain aspects that i respect (these guys seem to
need no sleep or family time), they really are somewhat clueless
regarding the tougher technical issues.  i think they would like to
transfer the R&D to the head office in Korea, but i don't think that
will ever happen.  nonetheless, there's still no job security as my
predecessors here found out in the early 2000s.

r b-j