Besides IEEE?

Hi,

I am from outside the formal signal processing community, and I am
wondering if there are any refereed journals that contain signal
processing as a major focus but are not IEEE based?

I have found a couple in Asia, but they often require you to become a
member to publish there and the fees for a US citizen is pretty steep.

TIA,

M

MathMan <mathimagical@netscape.net> wrote in news:4b6f5874-82ae-466e-af01-
201b555b71c4@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> Hi,
> 
> I am from outside the formal signal processing community, and I am
> wondering if there are any refereed journals that contain signal
> processing as a major focus but are not IEEE based?
> 
> I have found a couple in Asia, but they often require you to become a
> member to publish there and the fees for a US citizen is pretty steep.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> M
> 

I suppose the first question os what are you processing the signals for?  
Sig Proc. is a tool applied to many problems, so an area-specific journal 
that will accept methods papers might be appropriate.  For example, a 
biomedical problem might be appropriate for Ann. Biomed. Eng.

Your biggest impact factor will likely be IEEE, though.

-- 
Scott
Reverse name to reply

On Dec 18, 9:34 am, Scott Seidman <namdiestt...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> MathMan <mathimagi...@netscape.net> wrote in news:4b6f5874-82ae-466e-af01-
> 201b555b7...@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I am from outside the formal signal processing community, and I am
> > wondering if there are any refereed journals that contain signal
> > processing as a major focus but are not IEEE based?
>
> > I have found a couple in Asia, but they often require you to become a
> > member to publish there and the fees for a US citizen is pretty steep.
>
> > TIA,
>
> > M
>
> I suppose the first question os what are you processing the signals for?
> Sig Proc. is a tool applied to many problems, so an area-specific journal
> that will accept methods papers might be appropriate.  For example, a
> biomedical problem might be appropriate for Ann. Biomed. Eng.
>
> Your biggest impact factor will likely be IEEE, though.
>
> --
> Scott
> Reverse name to reply

Often my work deals with signal parameter estimation and detection. It
is more however along the lines of communications signal applications
than biomed related research.

Thanks,

M

On Dec 18, 11:28 am, MathMan <mathimagi...@netscape.net> wrote:
> On Dec 18, 9:34 am, Scott Seidman <namdiestt...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > MathMan <mathimagi...@netscape.net> wrote in news:4b6f5874-82ae-466e-af01-
> > 201b555b7...@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I am from outside the formal signal processing community, and I am
> > > wondering if there are any refereed journals that contain signal
> > > processing as a major focus but are not IEEE based?
>
> > > I have found a couple in Asia, but they often require you to become a
> > > member to publish there and the fees for a US citizen is pretty steep.
>
> > > TIA,
>
> > > M
>
> > I suppose the first question os what are you processing the signals for?
> > Sig Proc. is a tool applied to many problems, so an area-specific journal
> > that will accept methods papers might be appropriate.  For example, a
> > biomedical problem might be appropriate for Ann. Biomed. Eng.
>
> > Your biggest impact factor will likely be IEEE, though.
>
> > --
> > Scott
> > Reverse name to reply
>
> Often my work deals with signal parameter estimation and detection. It
> is more however along the lines of communications signal applications
> than biomed related research.
>
> Thanks,
>
> M

You could look at the IET (I believe it is now called) it is what used
to be the IEE.

Cheers,
David

On Dec 19, 3:34 am, Scott Seidman <namdiestt...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> MathMan <mathimagi...@netscape.net> wrote in news:4b6f5874-82ae-466e-af01-
> 201b555b7...@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I am from outside the formal signal processing community, and I am
> > wondering if there are any refereed journals that contain signal
> > processing as a major focus but are not IEEE based?
>
> > I have found a couple in Asia, but they often require you to become a
> > member to publish there and the fees for a US citizen is pretty steep.
>
> > TIA,
>
> > M
>
> I suppose the first question os what are you processing the signals for?
> Sig Proc. is a tool applied to many problems, so an area-specific journal
> that will accept methods papers might be appropriate.  For example, a
> biomedical problem might be appropriate for Ann. Biomed. Eng.
>
> Your biggest impact factor will likely be IEEE, though.
>
> --
> Scott
> Reverse name to reply

Lots! Elsevier publications SIgnal Processing,Digital Signal
Processing for starters. Circuits Systems and Signal Processing etc

Americans will always crow on about IEEE of course. It certainly is
tough to get into and has a big impact. Don't forget the British IETE
journals Image and Signal Processing.

Hardy

HardySpicer <gyansorova@gmail.com> wrote in news:8a19d898-78e3-411f-a493-
cb11966fe1b8@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com:

> Lots! Elsevier publications SIgnal Processing,Digital Signal
> Processing for starters. Circuits Systems and Signal Processing etc
> 
> Americans will always crow on about IEEE of course. It certainly is
> tough to get into and has a big impact. Don't forget the British IETE
> journals Image and Signal Processing.
> 
> Hardy
> 
> 

We can probably find fault w/ every technical/educational/scientific 
publisher.  For example, I think Elsevier has done some pretty nasty things 
with textbook prices and authorship rights.  Our librarians absolutely hate 
Elsevier.


-- 
Scott
Reverse name to reply

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:58:11 -0800 (PST), HardySpicer
<gyansorova@gmail.com> wrote:

   (snipped by Lyons)

>Lots! Elsevier publications SIgnal Processing,Digital Signal
>Processing for starters. Circuits Systems and Signal Processing etc
>
>Americans will always crow on about IEEE of course. It certainly is
>tough to get into and has a big impact. Don't forget the British IETE
>journals Image and Signal Processing.
>
>Hardy

Hi Hardy,
  you might hear some Americans "crow" about the 
IEEE.  But it probably won't be normal working 
engineers.  The IEEE has turned their backs on 
working engineers.  The IEEE is controlled by, 
and "geared" toward, industry researchers with 
Ph.Ds and university professors.  The IEEE is not 
particularly interested in the average working 
Electrical Engineer.

See Ya',
[-Rick-]

On Dec 19, 11:10 am, Scott Seidman <namdiestt...@mindspring.com>
wrote:
> HardySpicer <gyansor...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8a19d898-78e3-411f-a493-
> cb11966fe...@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Lots! Elsevier publications SIgnal Processing,Digital Signal
> > Processing for starters. Circuits Systems and Signal Processing etc
>
> > Americans will always crow on about IEEE of course. It certainly is
> > tough to get into and has a big impact. Don't forget the British IETE
> > journals Image and Signal Processing.
>
> > Hardy
>
> We can probably find fault w/ every technical/educational/scientific
> publisher.  For example, I think Elsevier has done some pretty nasty things
> with textbook prices and authorship rights.  Our librarians absolutely hate
> Elsevier.
>
> --
> Scott
> Reverse name to reply

Actually IEEE isn't exactly cheap either depending on your currency
but I agree in as much that all journals are over priced considering
the authors, reviewers and academic editor does not get paid a cent!
The only thing about the IEEE is that they have the cheek to ask for
voluntary page charges on top of all that! All papers should be free
after say 2 months as is the case in some other disciplines. Taylor
and Francis don't have a signal processing journal but at least their
journals have large papers with no extra charges.

Hardy

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:46:20 GMT, in The Thread Formerly Known As "Besides IEEE?", Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org> wrote:
>   you might hear some Americans "crow" about the 
> IEEE.  But it probably won't be normal working 
> engineers.  The IEEE has turned their backs on 
> working engineers.  The IEEE is controlled by, 
> and "geared" toward, industry researchers with 
> Ph.Ds and university professors.  The IEEE is not 
> particularly interested in the average working 
> Electrical Engineer.


I confess that I'm not an engineer; I'm an escaped Math major who
knows which end of a soldering iron to avoid (usually <grin!>), and
a former ACM/IEEE member.  I have an interest in publications which
cover topics a little more advanced than Ohm's Law and, while not
completely avoiding advanced research, introduce it more as an
appetizer or dessert than entree.  Manufacturers' Application Notes
help, but they don't feed me a regular diet of technical material or
an ongoing "refresh cycle" of older concepts that I may have
forgotten or not considered applying to new problems.

If the IEEE is not meeting an existing need, doesn't this sound like
an opportunity for someone or some group to jump in and satisfy it?
Or is the potential audience too scattered (and too miser...  er,
"thrifty") to make the effort worthwhile?

Anyone interested in the more general problem of making science and
technical articles (information) more readily available should take
a glance at an article I stumbled onto this morning while looking
for somethign else:

  Can Peer Review be better Focused?
  Paul Ginsparg, Cornell University
  http://people.ccmr.cornell.edu/~ginsparg/blurb/pg02pr.html

It's not long, but it seems to do a good job of describing the
current situation, the forces involved in "publishing" in its varied
guises, and offers a few suggestions.


--
    The real world constantly forces compromises into circuit design,
    but the good circuit designer accepts the challenge and throws
    money or brains at the challenge.
                           -- Ron Mancini / Op-Amps for Everyone [TI]
--
Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
Munged E-mail: frank uscore mckenney ayut mined spring dawt cahm (y'all)

On Dec 19, 8:42 am, Frnak McKenney
<fr...@far.from.the.madding.crowd.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:46:20 GMT, in The Thread Formerly Known As "Besides IEEE?", Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org> wrote:
> >   you might hear some Americans "crow" about the
> > IEEE.  But it probably won't be normal working
> > engineers.  The IEEE has turned their backs on
> > working engineers.  The IEEE is controlled by,
> > and "geared" toward, industry researchers with
> > Ph.Ds and university professors.  The IEEE is not
> > particularly interested in the average working
> > Electrical Engineer.
>
> I confess that I'm not an engineer; I'm an escaped Math major who
> knows which end of a soldering iron to avoid (usually <grin!>), and
> a former ACM/IEEE member.  I have an interest in publications which
> cover topics a little more advanced than Ohm's Law and, while not
> completely avoiding advanced research, introduce it more as an
> appetizer or dessert than entree.  Manufacturers' Application Notes
> help, but they don't feed me a regular diet of technical material or
> an ongoing "refresh cycle" of older concepts that I may have
> forgotten or not considered applying to new problems.
>
> If the IEEE is not meeting an existing need, doesn't this sound like
> an opportunity for someone or some group to jump in and satisfy it?
> Or is the potential audience too scattered (and too miser...  er,
> "thrifty") to make the effort worthwhile?
>
> Anyone interested in the more general problem of making science and
> technical articles (information) more readily available should take
> a glance at an article I stumbled onto this morning while looking
> for somethign else:
>
>   Can Peer Review be better Focused?
>   Paul Ginsparg, Cornell University
>  http://people.ccmr.cornell.edu/~ginsparg/blurb/pg02pr.html
>
> It's not long, but it seems to do a good job of describing the
> current situation, the forces involved in "publishing" in its varied
> guises, and offers a few suggestions.
>
> --
>     The real world constantly forces compromises into circuit design,
>     but the good circuit designer accepts the challenge and throws
>     money or brains at the challenge.
>                            -- Ron Mancini / Op-Amps for Everyone [TI]
> --
> Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
> Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
> Munged E-mail: frank uscore mckenney ayut mined spring dawt cahm (y'all)

First, thanks for the other suggestions. I had forgot about Elsevier,
for example.
Second, I think IEEE knows (to some extent) that it is losing the
formerly rather large following they have had in the past. I've seen
some pretty well known IEEE members now going to DSP-related confs
where they can make more of an impact and have something new to say.
In attempt to keep these people in the IEEE circle, you now see the
IEEE confs undergoing changes that attempt to pull in people who are
not just pure academicians, somewhat outside the traditional IEEE
circle, and are working in areas that also have good funding
prospects.

Best,

M