On Jun 2, 2:58 pm, timinganalyzer <timinganaly...@gmail.com> wrote:> There are 3 editions planned. The Free Edition(FE), the Standard > Edition(SE), > and the Professional Edition(PE). > > You can download the Free Edition now and read all about the > TimingAnalyzer at: > > www.timing-diagrams.com > > Comments and feedback are welcome at > > supp...@timing-diagrams.comVery, very interesting. Thanks Bye Jack
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On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:48:45 -0700 (PDT), KJ <kkjennings@sbcglobal.net> wrote:>On Jun 5, 9:14 am, Brian Drummond <brian_drumm...@btconnect.com> >wrote: >> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 12:44:03 -0700 (PDT), rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> >> >> Do you work in the NHS, or for one of their equipment suppliers? >> All the CUI references (includinghttp://www.mscui.net/seem to be >> associated with the health care sector. >> >I think what rickman was trying to remember was the 'Common User >Access' or 'CUA' developed by IBM. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_User_AccessProbably was; that makes more sense. All I could find searching for Microsoft and CUI (or Common User Interface) was that healthcare stuff. - Brian
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Andrew Smallshaw <andrews@sdf.lonestar.org> writes:> This is also an area where Microsoft have completely lost the plot. > Since Windows 95 every major release of Windows has been accompanied > by a new interface. Applications are even worse - I don't know > how many style of toolbar have been played with over the last 15 > years. Microsoft always make great play of the new interface but > who exactly does it benefit? Users are forced to learn new interfaces > every upgrade and application developers are forced to 'upgrade' > their programs with the new UI or risk being considered outdated.Who considers anything but the "latest and greatest" to be outdated? This group is supposedly intelligent and familiar enough with computing to make decisions about "upgrading". If newer products don't offer anything in valued improvements, ignore them.> The only people I can see benefiting are Microsoft themseleves (it > provides a very obvious reason to upgrade, even if it does lack > clear benefits) and hardware manufacturers (the upgrade needs newer > faster hardware). For all the talk of enhancing the user's experience > it seems obvious to me that MS don't give a shit about users. All > that matters is ensuring that the revenue keeps coming in from > repeated meaningless upgrades.
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Everett M. Greene wrote:> Andrew Smallshaw <andrews@sdf.lonestar.org> writes: > >> This is also an area where Microsoft have completely lost the plot. >> Since Windows 95 every major release of Windows has been accompanied >> by a new interface. Applications are even worse - I don't know >> how many style of toolbar have been played with over the last 15 >> years. Microsoft always make great play of the new interface but >> who exactly does it benefit? Users are forced to learn new interfaces >> every upgrade and application developers are forced to 'upgrade' >> their programs with the new UI or risk being considered outdated. > > Who considers anything but the "latest and greatest" to be > outdated? This group is supposedly intelligent and familiar > enough with computing to make decisions about "upgrading". > If newer products don't offer anything in valued improvements, > ignore them.It's not that simple. Others upgrade, then you can't read what they send you. MS sees to that.>> The only people I can see benefiting are Microsoft themseleves (it >> provides a very obvious reason to upgrade, even if it does lack >> clear benefits) and hardware manufacturers (the upgrade needs newer >> faster hardware). For all the talk of enhancing the user's experience >> it seems obvious to me that MS don't give a shit about users. All >> that matters is ensuring that the revenue keeps coming in from >> repeated meaningless upgrades.Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
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On Jun 6, 2:13 pm, moja...@mojaveg.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com (Everett M. Greene) wrote:> Andrew Smallshaw <andr...@sdf.lonestar.org> writes: > > This is also an area where Microsoft have completely lost the plot. > > Since Windows 95 every major release of Windows has been accompanied > > by a new interface. Applications are even worse - I don't know > > how many style of toolbar have been played with over the last 15 > > years. Microsoft always make great play of the new interface but > > who exactly does it benefit? Users are forced to learn new interfaces > > every upgrade and application developers are forced to 'upgrade' > > their programs with the new UI or risk being considered outdated. > > Who considers anything but the "latest and greatest" to be > outdated? This group is supposedly intelligent and familiar > enough with computing to make decisions about "upgrading". > If newer products don't offer anything in valued improvements, > ignore them.You seem naive. I am very happy with Windows 2000 on my desktop computer. If I build another it will also run Windows 2000. But if I want a laptop, I won't have much choice but to run Win XP (for the next few weeks) or Vista. I only wish I had a choice. Rick
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rickman wrote:> You seem naive. I am very happy with Windows 2000 on my desktop > computer. If I build another it will also run Windows 2000. But if I > want a laptop, I won't have much choice but to run Win XP (for the > next few weeks) or Vista. I only wish I had a choice.It seems many designers ARE using Win2000, and are happy with the quirks-they-know, and do NOT want to buy into another round of learn-the-quirk. [I have Win2000 here, on 2 machines!] Sadly, not all EDA companies see this, and Win2000 is moving off some radars. Given that XP and expecially Vista, will not install on hardware too out-of-phase with the release date, that will also mean retiring functional PCs to a land-fill somewhere (and those PCs probably pre-date Lead-free)..... I did hear Dell were running XP supply to 2011 (or something like that ? )- because of customer demand, not Microsoft's. -jg
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rickman wrote:> moja...@mojaveg.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com (Everett M. Greene) wrote: >... snip ...> >> Who considers anything but the "latest and greatest" to be >> outdated? This group is supposedly intelligent and familiar >> enough with computing to make decisions about "upgrading". >> If newer products don't offer anything in valued improvements, >> ignore them. > > You seem naive. I am very happy with Windows 2000 on my desktop > computer. If I build another it will also run Windows 2000. But > if I want a laptop, I won't have much choice but to run Win XP > (for the next few weeks) or Vista. I only wish I had a choice.Seriously consider Linux, especially Ubuntu. You do have a choice. A better choice. -- [mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net) [page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net> Try the download section. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
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rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:> [...] > But if I want a laptop, I won't have much choice but to run Win XP > (for the next few weeks) or Vista. I only wish I had a choice.You do. I have successfully installed Fedora 8 on an HP Pavillion DV9620US. However one thing to be careful of in running linux on laptops is Broadcom's stubborn refusal to open up their wireless card specifications so that open source drivers can be developed. Translated: don't buy a laptop with a Broadcom wireless card (or chipset) if you want to run linux on it. Atheros I've heard is very good and supported by madwifi.org. But, even though Broadcom is stubborn, I have still been successful at getting the card to work on my home network. Unfortunately the reverse engineered drivers (b43-fwcutter...) do not seem to support the Master modes used in public hotspots. -- % Randy Yates % "The dreamer, the unwoken fool - %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % in dreams, no pain will kiss the brow..." %%% 919-577-9882 % %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % 'Eldorado Overture', *Eldorado*, ELO http://www.digitalsignallabs.com
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Randy Yates wrote:>... > Atheros I've heard is very good and supported by madwifi.org.Here is what I found on that madwifi.org: " The About/HAL: Hardware Abstraction Layer. All access to the hardware has to go thru this closed source component which is maintained by Atheros. Unfortunately there is no documentation for it except the public interfaces in hal/ah.h." I can understand they want to have something working with linux, but I definitely lose all sympathy when those of the "open source" community begin to get involved in the wifi secrecy scenario. It is not just hypocrytic, it is of course fuelling the monopoly over wifi related software. I would much rather have something with closed sources but documented rather than open source here and there and closed key parts. If such cooperation to blackmail companies (like MS and those making wifi parts usable only for MS) is OK with linux and GNU then they should certainly shut up with their claim about openness. Didi ------------------------------------------------------ Dimiter Popoff Transgalactic Instruments http://www.tgi-sci.com ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.flickr.com/photos/didi_tgi/sets/72157600228621276/ Original message: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.arch.embedded/msg/36859f5adcc6089e?dmode=source
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On Jun 7, 12:13 am, Randy Yates <ya...@ieee.org> wrote:> rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> writes: > > [...] > > But if I want a laptop, I won't have much choice but to run Win XP > > (for the next few weeks) or Vista. I only wish I had a choice. > > You do. I have successfully installed Fedora 8 on an HP Pavillion > DV9620US. > > However one thing to be careful of in running linux on laptops is > Broadcom's stubborn refusal to open up their wireless card > specifications so that open source drivers can be developed. Translated: > don't buy a laptop with a Broadcom wireless card (or chipset) if you > want to run linux on it. Atheros I've heard is very good and supported > by madwifi.org. > > But, even though Broadcom is stubborn, I have still been successful at > getting the card to work on my home network. Unfortunately the reverse > engineered drivers (b43-fwcutter...) do not seem to support the Master > modes used in public hotspots.I knew someone would mention Linux. Linux is still an alien platform to me and there is any amount of software that is not supported under it... or I should say that there is any amount of software that is only supported on specific versions of Linux. If I run Fedora 8, maybe vendor X gives me support and vendor Y doesn't. I run Redhat and vendor X gives me support and vendor Z doesn't... etc, etc, etc. The reason that I still run windows at all is because for me, it is the only option. Currently Win2000 is the best that runs the minimum required set of software. If I want a laptop, my only choice currently is to buy a machine running XP which I can do for the next few weeks. After that there will be no choice on a new machine except for Vista. With a number of vendors not supporting that still, I will not have the option of buying a new laptop with an installed OS that runs the software I need. Rick
