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56800 SDK CAN driver

Started by schwca August 26, 2003
Motorola does not place the SDK MSCAN drivers on the 2.5 or 3.0 CDs.
SDK and Motorola website says that they are "priced separately" but
that's all it says about it. "Digital DNA" help emails me back a
response to contact one of the distributors for price information. As
I expected, none of the distributors know anything about how to
acquire these files.

Do any of you know how to acquire the "priced separately" drivers? At
this point I'm thinking of figuring out how to make the minimal
functions of the CAN that I need without getting the SDK.

Is CANOpen protocol available for DSP8600s?

Thanks



Hi schwca (?)

RE: documentation for the "premium" MSCAN12 driver (which I would call a
mini-application).

you said:
<< "Digital DNA" help emails me back a
response to contact one of the distributors for price information>>

I browbeat salesmen and reps for weeks before getting this doc. I thought
their concept of "virtual pipes" was bizarre and inappropriate to
microcontroller, let alone DSP applications. Whatever. It also did not
support changing message IDs 'on the fly'.

I hear there is an NRE cost of $3000 USD, with no royalties. Ordering number
is alleged to be: ENGRCHGCAN. Good luck! (I hope this doesn't count as a
"commercial" post!)

If anyone wants this doc, and it is not attached to the Email you receive
from the mail list, please Email me privately and I will forward it.

I heard that some third party developed it for them, and this is why it is
expensive. They gave us royal Heck when we asked to evaluate it, accusing
us of wanting to copy the code and not pay for it - when we were just asking
for minimal examples of how to configure the control registers.

The Email I got from Daniel Malik (who found the doc and forwarded it to me)
stated that one can evaluate it by just signing an NDA. So far, *every*
useful answer I have gotten from D-DNA came from Daniel Malik.

I would love to know your thoughts about this doc and driver (if you try
it). Would you like my sample code for configuring the peripheral?

Rick Corey

-----Original Message-----
From: schwca [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 3:01 PM
To:
Subject: [motoroladsp] 56800 SDK CAN driver Motorola does not place the SDK MSCAN drivers on the 2.5 or 3.0 CDs.
SDK and Motorola website says that they are "priced separately" but
that's all it says about it. "Digital DNA" help emails me back a
response to contact one of the distributors for price information. As
I expected, none of the distributors know anything about how to
acquire these files.

Do any of you know how to acquire the "priced separately" drivers? At
this point I'm thinking of figuring out how to make the minimal
functions of the CAN that I need without getting the SDK.

Is CANOpen protocol available for DSP8600s?

Thanks
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The documentation for the premium components are included in the standard SDK so that if you are interested in the components and want to find out about them they are on the HTML help and on the SDK CD in pdf form. PDF documentation on all the premium and non premium components can also be found on the Motorola SPS website on the SDK product page below.
 
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MSW3SDK000AA&parentCode=DSP56855&nodeIdz6wYqRXz3011
 
An evaluation license is available for all the premium components so that this can be fully evaluated before purchase. Thannks.
 
- Bill
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From: Corey, Rick [mailto:r...@dpconline.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:22 PM
To: 'schwca'; m...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motoroladsp] 56800 SDK CAN driver

Hi schwca (?)

RE: documentation for the "premium" MSCAN12 driver (which I would call a
mini-application).

you said:
<<  "Digital DNA" help emails me back a
response to contact one of the distributors for price information>>

I browbeat salesmen and reps for weeks before getting this doc.  I thought
their concept of "virtual pipes" was bizarre and inappropriate to
microcontroller, let alone DSP applications.  Whatever.  It also did not
support changing message IDs 'on the fly'. 

I hear there is an NRE cost of $3000 USD, with no royalties. Ordering number
is alleged to be: ENGRCHGCAN.   Good luck!  (I hope this doesn't count as a
"commercial" post!)

If anyone wants this doc, and it is not attached to the Email you receive
from the mail list, please Email me privately and I will forward it. 

I heard that some third party developed it for them, and this is why it is
expensive.  They gave us royal Heck when we asked to evaluate it, accusing
us of wanting to copy the code and not pay for it - when we were just asking
for minimal examples of how to configure the control registers. 

The Email I got from Daniel Malik (who found the doc and forwarded it to me)
stated that one can evaluate it by just signing an NDA.  So far,  *every*
useful answer I have gotten from D-DNA came from Daniel Malik.

I would love to know your thoughts about this doc and driver (if you try
it).  Would you like my sample code for configuring the peripheral?

Rick Corey

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Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 3:01 PM
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Subject: [motoroladsp] 56800 SDK CAN driverMotorola does not place the SDK MSCAN drivers on the 2.5 or 3.0 CDs. 
SDK and Motorola website says that they are "priced separately" but
that's all it says about it.  "Digital DNA" help emails me back a
response to contact one of the distributors for price information.  As
I expected, none of the distributors know anything about how to
acquire these files.

Do any of you know how to acquire the "priced separately" drivers?  At
this point I'm thinking of figuring out how to make the minimal
functions of the CAN that I need without getting the SDK.

Is CANOpen protocol available for DSP8600s?

Thanks
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Hello,
I'm a new member of this group and I am also looking out for the MSCAN drivers for the DSP56F805 boards.
I got the free CD from freescale but the driver files do not install with the license they provide.
So what should I do? Please help.
Thanks
vivek
UIC > Hi schwca (?)
>
>RE: documentation for the "premium" MSCAN12 driver (which I would call a
>mini-application).
>
>you said:
><< "Digital DNA" help emails me back a
>response to contact one of the distributors for price information>>
>
>I browbeat salesmen and reps for weeks before getting this doc. I thought
>their concept of "virtual pipes" was bizarre and inappropriate to
>microcontroller, let alone DSP applications. Whatever. It also did not
>support changing message IDs 'on the fly'.
>
>I hear there is an NRE cost of $3000 USD, with no royalties. Ordering number
>is alleged to be: ENGRCHGCAN. Good luck! (I hope this doesn't count as a
>"commercial" post!)
>
>If anyone wants this doc, and it is not attached to the Email you receive
>from the mail list, please Email me privately and I will forward it.
>
>I heard that some third party developed it for them, and this is why it is
>expensive. They gave us royal Heck when we asked to evaluate it, accusing
>us of wanting to copy the code and not pay for it - when we were just asking
>for minimal examples of how to configure the control registers.
>
>The Email I got from Daniel Malik (who found the doc and forwarded it to me)
>stated that one can evaluate it by just signing an NDA. So far, *every*
>useful answer I have gotten from D-DNA came from Daniel Malik.
>
>I would love to know your thoughts about this doc and driver (if you try
>it). Would you like my sample code for configuring the peripheral?
>
>Rick Corey >
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: schwca [mailto:]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 3:01 PM
>To:
>Subject: [motoroladsp] 56800 SDK CAN driver >Motorola does not place the SDK MSCAN drivers on the 2.5 or 3.0 CDs.
>SDK and Motorola website says that they are "priced separately" but
>that's all it says about it. "Digital DNA" help emails me back a
>response to contact one of the distributors for price information. As
>I expected, none of the distributors know anything about how to
>acquire these files.
>
>Do any of you know how to acquire the "priced separately" drivers? At
>this point I'm thinking of figuring out how to make the minimal
>functions of the CAN that I need without getting the SDK.
>
>Is CANOpen protocol available for DSP8600s?
>
>Thanks >
>_____________________________________
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>this message will receive your answer. You need to do a "reply all" if you
>want your answer to be distributed to the entire group.
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> Type: application/octet-stream



Hi Vivek and Gary

Actually, I think that all Metrowerks offers is a $3,000 third-party
software "driver" that implements "virtual pipes" over CANbus, but does not
give you control over message IDs on the fly.

I think the order number for the doc describing this marvel is "ENGRCHGCAN".
It took me weeks to get just the doc from Moto. If you try to go that route
and can not get the doc from your salespeople, let me know and I can
probably dig out a copy. This is not a recommendation!

Art Johnson gave me a hand - he had some extra writes that I never found in
the manual. If the Moto manual had been my only source of information, I
would still be poking registers and cursing the docs. I sure hope Freescale
updated their manual chapter for this peripheral!

Rick Corey -----Original Message-----
From: Gary Olmstead [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:09 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [motoroladsp] Digest Number 739
At 10:26 PM 2/21/05, you wrote:

>Subject: RE: 56800 SDK CAN driver >Hello,
>I'm a new member of this group and I am also looking out for the MSCAN
>drivers for the DSP56F805 boards.
>I got the free CD from freescale but the driver files do not install with
>the license they provide.
>So what should I do? Please help.

I've lost my CD-ROM, so I have to guess that the code comes from
Metrowerks. Go to their web site and contact them. They are very helpful.

Gary Olmstead
Toucan Technology
Ventura CA