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Started by ukkiwikid October 15, 2003
ok I have given up on trying to debug with tasking (just found out we
need to spend an additional 2000 (on top of the 3000 for the
compiler) in order to be able to debug damm!!!!!

Anyway, I am trying to get my head around the using the Suite56 tools
(or any other free source level tools) in order to debug my target.

What I have is the tools installed(I think), a wiggler, and my
DS56303 target. Can anybody point me in a direction (preferably the
right one), that would enable me to connect all these together, and
be able to debug my system. I have tried many things but alas to no
avail.

Any a pointer to any useful documentation (other than the standard
stuff that motorola have - none of which seems to point to this case).

Cheers,

Scott.



Moin,

You seem to have everything you need to debug your DSP Code, in case
your wiggler is the "Suite56 Parallel Command Converter", works fine
here in the castle.

Unfortunately your description of the problem lacks a certain accuracy,
so I suggest to do the following:

-connect Wiggler to your Hardware, make sure Hardware engineer connected
pins properly.

-start the "Command Converter Server", make sure it is configured properly,
wiggler on LPT1 etc.

-power up Hardware

-start "GDS56300", it should find your hardware, just reset and trace
DSP step by step and see how it executes the internal bootstrap code.
This is a good way of telling if the DSP is alive at all, you can see
if it chooses the right booting method and you don't have to load any
code. ukkiwikid wrote:
> ok I have given up on trying to debug with tasking (just found out we
> need to spend an additional 2000 (on top of the 3000 for the
> compiler) in order to be able to debug damm!!!!!

The price seemed too high for me lately, especially because it includes
just a single license for the compiler. Reading that you have to pay
extra for some debugging facility is really poor style and I do not
regret not having bought the compiler. Stefan

> Anyway, I am trying to get my head around the using the Suite56 tools
> (or any other free source level tools) in order to debug my target.
>
> What I have is the tools installed(I think), a wiggler, and my
> DS56303 target. Can anybody point me in a direction (preferably the
> right one), that would enable me to connect all these together, and
> be able to debug my system. I have tried many things but alas to no
> avail.
>
> Any a pointer to any useful documentation (other than the standard
> stuff that motorola have - none of which seems to point to this case).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Scott.
>




Is your target PCB custom, or a Motorola EVM? If it's custom, you
have to get the wiring to the JTAG header just right and you need to
OR both JTAG pin 9 and 56311 TRST/ with a power up reset. This point
is somewhat obscure in the Mot literature.

Another point: the internal boot ROM will only load code and data
into P: space, so if you have X or Y data assignments in your source,
they won't be handled correctly.

If you're using an EVM, be sure that the JTAG/CC converter option
header has (or does not have) a shunt in place. It should be set to
disable the on board Command Converter and select the external
wiggler attached to the JTAG port.

There was a problem with the rev level of the Tools package whereby a
DLL called (I think) windriver.dll was out of date with the one
required by CCS or the Debugger.

I finally got the tools to work with both the EVM56311 and a custom
PCB that I designed and the system seems solid.

Best,

Chris On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:28:36 -0000, ukkiwikid wrote:
ok I have given up on trying to debug with tasking (just found out we
need to spend an additional 2000 (on top of the 3000 for the
compiler) in order to be able to debug damm!!!!!

Anyway, I am trying to get my head around the using the Suite56 tools
(or any other free source level tools) in order to debug my target.

What I have is the tools installed(I think), a wiggler, and my
DS56303 target. Can anybody point me in a direction (preferably the
right one), that would enable me to connect all these together, and
be able to debug my system. I have tried many things but alas to no
avail.

Any a pointer to any useful documentation (other than the standard
stuff that motorola have - none of which seems to point to this
case).

Cheers,

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Yahooooo, I am connected and debugging. Thanks everybody However I
cant get the source file loaded into the GDS56300.

When I open the source window after loading the COFF file it has the
following
no_source_file pc=@0 pi:$6 <no_label> section:global

Any thoughts?

Cheers

Scott. --- In , Christopher Moore <moore@s...>
wrote:
> Is your target PCB custom, or a Motorola EVM? If it's custom, you
> have to get the wiring to the JTAG header just right and you need
to
> OR both JTAG pin 9 and 56311 TRST/ with a power up reset. This
point
> is somewhat obscure in the Mot literature.
>
> Another point: the internal boot ROM will only load code and data
> into P: space, so if you have X or Y data assignments in your
source,
> they won't be handled correctly.
>
> If you're using an EVM, be sure that the JTAG/CC converter option
> header has (or does not have) a shunt in place. It should be set to
> disable the on board Command Converter and select the external
> wiggler attached to the JTAG port.
>
> There was a problem with the rev level of the Tools package whereby
a
> DLL called (I think) windriver.dll was out of date with the one
> required by CCS or the Debugger.
>
> I finally got the tools to work with both the EVM56311 and a custom
> PCB that I designed and the system seems solid.
>
> Best,
>
> Chris > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:28:36 -0000, ukkiwikid wrote:
> ok I have given up on trying to debug with tasking (just found out
we
> need to spend an additional 2000 (on top of the 3000 for the
> compiler) in order to be able to debug damm!!!!!
>
> Anyway, I am trying to get my head around the using the Suite56
tools
> (or any other free source level tools) in order to debug my target.
>
> What I have is the tools installed(I think), a wiggler, and my
> DS56303 target. Can anybody point me in a direction (preferably the
> right one), that would enable me to connect all these together, and
> be able to debug my system. I have tried many things but alas to no
> avail.
>
> Any a pointer to any useful documentation (other than the standard
> stuff that motorola have - none of which seems to point to this
> case).
>
> Cheers,
>
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Do you have the paths set properly in the debugger???

--
dB

--- ukkiwikid <> wrote:
> Yahooooo, I am connected and debugging. Thanks everybody However I
> cant get the source file loaded into the GDS56300.
>
> When I open the source window after loading the COFF file it has the
> following
> no_source_file pc=@0 pi:$6 <no_label> section:global
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Cheers
>
> Scott. > --- In , Christopher Moore <moore@s...>
> wrote:
> > Is your target PCB custom, or a Motorola EVM? If it's custom, you
> > have to get the wiring to the JTAG header just right and you need
> to
> > OR both JTAG pin 9 and 56311 TRST/ with a power up reset. This
> point
> > is somewhat obscure in the Mot literature.
> >
> > Another point: the internal boot ROM will only load code and data
> > into P: space, so if you have X or Y data assignments in your
> source,
> > they won't be handled correctly.
> >
> > If you're using an EVM, be sure that the JTAG/CC converter option
> > header has (or does not have) a shunt in place. It should be set to
>
> > disable the on board Command Converter and select the external
> > wiggler attached to the JTAG port.
> >
> > There was a problem with the rev level of the Tools package whereby
>
> a
> > DLL called (I think) windriver.dll was out of date with the one
> > required by CCS or the Debugger.
> >
> > I finally got the tools to work with both the EVM56311 and a custom
>
> > PCB that I designed and the system seems solid.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:28:36 -0000, ukkiwikid wrote:
> > ok I have given up on trying to debug with tasking (just found out
> we
> > need to spend an additional 2000 (on top of the 3000 for the
> > compiler) in order to be able to debug damm!!!!!
> >
> > Anyway, I am trying to get my head around the using the Suite56
> tools
> > (or any other free source level tools) in order to debug my target.
> >
> > What I have is the tools installed(I think), a wiggler, and my
> > DS56303 target. Can anybody point me in a direction (preferably
> the
> > right one), that would enable me to connect all these together, and
> > be able to debug my system. I have tried many things but alas to
> no
> > avail.
> >
> > Any a pointer to any useful documentation (other than the standard
> > stuff that motorola have - none of which seems to point to this
> > case).
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Scott.
> >
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If the source is from a Tasking project, something special needs to be
done in Tasking to generate the Motorola symbolic info in the .cld
file so the Suite debugger can find and use the source.

Don't ask what that is; you need to ask Tasking. (I've never
personally used Tasking, but I know the option for Moto debugging exists)

--david
--- In , dbaudiopro <dbaudiopro@y...> wrote:
> Do you have the paths set properly in the debugger???
>
> --
> dB
>
> --- ukkiwikid <burke_scott@h...> wrote:
> > Yahooooo, I am connected and debugging. Thanks everybody However I
> > cant get the source file loaded into the GDS56300.
> >
> > When I open the source window after loading the COFF file it has the
> > following
> > no_source_file pc=@0 pi:$6 <no_label> section:global
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Scott.
> >
> >
> > --- In , Christopher Moore <moore@s...>
> > wrote:
> > > Is your target PCB custom, or a Motorola EVM? If it's custom, you
> > > have to get the wiring to the JTAG header just right and you need
> > to
> > > OR both JTAG pin 9 and 56311 TRST/ with a power up reset. This
> > point
> > > is somewhat obscure in the Mot literature.
> > >
> > > Another point: the internal boot ROM will only load code and data
> > > into P: space, so if you have X or Y data assignments in your
> > source,
> > > they won't be handled correctly.
> > >
> > > If you're using an EVM, be sure that the JTAG/CC converter option
> > > header has (or does not have) a shunt in place. It should be set to
> >
> > > disable the on board Command Converter and select the external
> > > wiggler attached to the JTAG port.
> > >
> > > There was a problem with the rev level of the Tools package whereby
> >
> > a
> > > DLL called (I think) windriver.dll was out of date with the one
> > > required by CCS or the Debugger.
> > >
> > > I finally got the tools to work with both the EVM56311 and a custom
> >
> > > PCB that I designed and the system seems solid.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:28:36 -0000, ukkiwikid wrote:
> > > ok I have given up on trying to debug with tasking (just found out
> > we
> > > need to spend an additional 2000 (on top of the 3000 for the
> > > compiler) in order to be able to debug damm!!!!!
> > >
> > > Anyway, I am trying to get my head around the using the Suite56
> > tools
> > > (or any other free source level tools) in order to debug my target.
> > >
> > > What I have is the tools installed(I think), a wiggler, and my
> > > DS56303 target. Can anybody point me in a direction (preferably
> > the
> > > right one), that would enable me to connect all these together, and
> > > be able to debug my system. I have tried many things but alas to
> > no
> > > avail.
> > >
> > > Any a pointer to any useful documentation (other than the standard
> > > stuff that motorola have - none of which seems to point to this
> > > case).
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Scott.
> > >
> > >
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