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DSP56F8xx tools question

Started by Unknown November 7, 2001
I have been browsing the Motorola web page,
and I found what looks like a really great
DSP/MPU that would fit in really well with
some of my hobby robotics projects. I have
found that the DSP56F8xx chips are perfect
for hobby robotics apps, they are cheap,
they are fast, they are available in a non BGA
package ;), and they have all kinds of
built on motion control peripherals. There
is just one problem... I cannot seem to find
a free (low cost) compiler for them. I noticed
that code warrior supports them, but there is
no way that you can expect a hobbiest to be able
to afford the $2500 cost of it, for a simple
hobby. These are great chips (as are all motorola
chips, I am currently using a 68332), and I would
love to be able to use one in a design, unfortunately
I cannot justify the cost of the compiler. Does
anyone here know where I can get a GNU compiler
port to this DSP? I already use (and love) the GCC
on my '332 based board, so I am really
familure with that, but if there are any other
free compilers that would be great too. It would
be really nice if they ran in Linux (my dev env
runs linux) but not necessary. If I have posted
this to the wrong list, I am sorry, could you please
point me to the correct list?

Thanks,
Mike



I believe the whole package including compiler, evaluation module (PC board
with lots of peripherals) and parallel JTAG converter is $295 now. We have
two or three of them. I've been using them for three months and it seems to
work well. I'm just using it until we layout our own board.

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Subject: [motoroladsp] DSP56F8xx tools question I have been browsing the Motorola web page,
and I found what looks like a really great
DSP/MPU that would fit in really well with
some of my hobby robotics projects. I have
found that the DSP56F8xx chips are perfect
for hobby robotics apps, they are cheap,
they are fast, they are available in a non BGA
package ;), and they have all kinds of
built on motion control peripherals. There
is just one problem... I cannot seem to find
a free (low cost) compiler for them. I noticed
that code warrior supports them, but there is
no way that you can expect a hobbiest to be able
to afford the $2500 cost of it, for a simple
hobby. These are great chips (as are all motorola
chips, I am currently using a 68332), and I would
love to be able to use one in a design, unfortunately
I cannot justify the cost of the compiler. Does
anyone here know where I can get a GNU compiler
port to this DSP? I already use (and love) the GCC
on my '332 based board, so I am really
familure with that, but if there are any other
free compilers that would be great too. It would
be really nice if they ran in Linux (my dev env
runs linux) but not necessary. If I have posted
this to the wrong list, I am sorry, could you please
point me to the correct list?

Thanks,
Mike
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Unfortunately the complimentary offer for CodeWarrior tools with the
purchase of EVM board (for $295) has expired in October. I believe that new
price for CodeWarrior license is around $1200, but you should really check
with your local distributor.

Leonard N. Elevich
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From: Haile, David [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 8:24 AM
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Subject: RE: [motoroladsp] DSP56F8xx tools question

I believe the whole package including compiler, evaluation module (PC board
with lots of peripherals) and parallel JTAG converter is $295 now. We have
two or three of them. I've been using them for three months and it seems to
work well. I'm just using it until we layout our own board.

-----Original Message-----
From: [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:23 PM
To:
Subject: [motoroladsp] DSP56F8xx tools question I have been browsing the Motorola web page,
and I found what looks like a really great
DSP/MPU that would fit in really well with
some of my hobby robotics projects. I have
found that the DSP56F8xx chips are perfect
for hobby robotics apps, they are cheap,
they are fast, they are available in a non BGA
package ;), and they have all kinds of
built on motion control peripherals. There
is just one problem... I cannot seem to find
a free (low cost) compiler for them. I noticed
that code warrior supports them, but there is
no way that you can expect a hobbiest to be able
to afford the $2500 cost of it, for a simple
hobby. These are great chips (as are all motorola
chips, I am currently using a 68332), and I would
love to be able to use one in a design, unfortunately
I cannot justify the cost of the compiler. Does
anyone here know where I can get a GNU compiler
port to this DSP? I already use (and love) the GCC
on my '332 based board, so I am really
familure with that, but if there are any other
free compilers that would be great too. It would
be really nice if they ran in Linux (my dev env
runs linux) but not necessary. If I have posted
this to the wrong list, I am sorry, could you please
point me to the correct list?

Thanks,
Mike
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Mike ...

I have a DSP56811EVM kit which I'm almost positive included the Domain
Technologies debugger and the Motorola freebie C compiler and assembler.
After playing with the '002 and the '307 I really didn't care much at all
for the '811 as it hacked away to much of the best of the DSP capabilities
I was used to in order to fit in the general purpose microprocessor
functions. I hardly used it at all before I tossed it in the "archive"
box. I know where my old kit is but haven't rummaged through it yet, and
would be happy to part with it if it is of any help to you. E-mail me
directly if you have any interest.

Blessings in abundance, all the best, and ENJOY!

Art Du Rea
Hellam, Pennsylvania USA

At 03:00 PM 11/7/01 -0700, Elevich wrote:
>Unfortunately the complimentary offer for CodeWarrior tools with the
>purchase of EVM board (for $295) has expired in October. I believe that new
>price for CodeWarrior license is around $1200, but you should really check
>with your local distributor.
>
>Leonard N. Elevich
>Motorola DSPD >-----1st Reply-----
>From: Haile, David [mailto:]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 8:24 AM
>
>I believe the whole package including compiler, evaluation module (PC board
>with lots of peripherals) and parallel JTAG converter is $295 now. We have
>two or three of them. I've been using them for three months and it seems to
>work well. I'm just using it until we layout our own board.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [mailto:]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:23 PM
>
>I have been browsing the Motorola web page,
>and I found what looks like a really great
>DSP/MPU that would fit in really well with
>some of my hobby robotics projects. I have
>found that the DSP56F8xx chips are perfect
>for hobby robotics apps, they are cheap,
>they are fast, they are available in a non BGA
>package ;), and they have all kinds of
>built on motion control peripherals. There
>is just one problem... I cannot seem to find
>a free (low cost) compiler for them. I noticed
>that code warrior supports them, but there is
>no way that you can expect a hobbiest to be able
>to afford the $2500 cost of it, for a simple
>hobby. These are great chips (as are all motorola
>chips, I am currently using a 68332), and I would
>love to be able to use one in a design, unfortunately
>I cannot justify the cost of the compiler. Does
>anyone here know where I can get a GNU compiler
>port to this DSP? I already use (and love) the GCC
>on my '332 based board, so I am really
>familure with that, but if there are any other
>free compilers that would be great too. It would
>be really nice if they ran in Linux (my dev env
>runs linux) but not necessary.
>Mike


Unfortunately, the Domain debugger contained in the DSP56811EVM kit
does not support any newer devices than possibly the 56824, if it is even
usable with even that. The 56811 has been discontinued for a long time.

The old assembler and linker in the EVM kid may work, but beyond using
those to generate an SREC file to put code into an EPROM, you'd have to
debug blind. (CodeWarrior won't let you debug unless it downloads
something first, and then it is not as easily used as the Suite56 debugger
or the Domain debugger.)

You might be able to get the DSP to execute out of external memory and
have it burn the internal flash on the newer 56F8xx, but again, you'd have
to debug it blind.

-david

>I have a DSP56811EVM kit which I'm almost positive included the Domain
>Technologies debugger and the Motorola freebie C compiler and assembler.
>After playing with the '002 and the '307 I really didn't care much at all
>for the '811 as it hacked away to much of the best of the DSP capabilities
>I was used to in order to fit in the general purpose microprocessor
>functions. I hardly used it at all before I tossed it in the "archive"
>box. I know where my old kit is but haven't rummaged through it yet, and
>would be happy to part with it if it is of any help to you. E-mail me
>directly if you have any interest.


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David ...

You wouldn't have a (soft/hard) copy of the old '811 EVM manual would you?
It wasn't available when I bought my kit, and there was just some stuff in
Chapter 12 of one of the other manuals on the CD. It is no big deal ... I
may not ever use it, but it would be nice to have "just in case". I don't
know of any "archives" available from Motorola. Blessings in abundance, all the best, and ENJOY!

Art Du Rea
Hellam, Pennsylvania USA




Art, I am attaching DSP56L811EVM User’s Manual. You can also download it from the following location:

 

http://merchant.hibbertco.com/servlet/mtrlext.MtrlExtServlet?tp=pdf&cpn=DSP56L811EMUMAD

 

Leonard N. Elevich

Motorola DSPD

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Art [mailto:a...@bigfoot.com]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:42 AM
To: m...@yahoogroups.com; b...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [motoroladsp] DSP56F8xx tools question

 

David ...

You wouldn't have a (soft/hard) copy of the old '811 EVM manual would you?
It wasn't available when I bought my kit, and there was just some stuff in
Chapter 12 of one of the other manuals on the CD.  It is no big deal ... I
may not ever use it, but it would be nice to have "just in case".  I don't
know of any "archives" available from Motorola.         Blessings in abundance, all the best, and ENJOY!

        Art Du Rea
        Hellam,  Pennsylvania  USA


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