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I have been browsing the Motorola web page, and I found what looks like a really great DSP/MPU that would fit in really well with some of my hobby robotics projects. I have found that the DSP56F8xx chips are perfect for hobby robotics apps, they are cheap, they are fast, they are available in a non BGA package ;), and they have all kinds of built on motion control peripherals. There is just one problem... I cannot seem to find a free (low cost) compiler for them. I noticed that code warrior supports them, but there is no way that you can expect a hobbiest to be able to afford the $2500 cost of it, for a simple hobby. These are great chips (as are all motorola chips, I am currently using a 68332), and I would love to be able to use one in a design, unfortunately I cannot justify the cost of the compiler. Does anyone here know where I can get a GNU compiler port to this DSP? I already use (and love) the GCC on my '332 based board, so I am really familure with that, but if there are any other free compilers that would be great too. It would be really nice if they ran in Linux (my dev env runs linux) but not necessary. If I have posted this to the wrong list, I am sorry, could you please point me to the correct list? Thanks, Mike |
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DSP56F8xx tools question
Started by ●November 7, 2001
Reply by ●November 7, 20012001-11-07
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I believe the whole package including compiler, evaluation module (PC
board with lots of peripherals) and parallel JTAG converter is $295 now. We have two or three of them. I've been using them for three months and it seems to work well. I'm just using it until we layout our own board. -----Original Message----- From: [mailto:] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:23 PM To: Subject: [motoroladsp] DSP56F8xx tools question I have been browsing the Motorola web page, and I found what looks like a really great DSP/MPU that would fit in really well with some of my hobby robotics projects. I have found that the DSP56F8xx chips are perfect for hobby robotics apps, they are cheap, they are fast, they are available in a non BGA package ;), and they have all kinds of built on motion control peripherals. There is just one problem... I cannot seem to find a free (low cost) compiler for them. I noticed that code warrior supports them, but there is no way that you can expect a hobbiest to be able to afford the $2500 cost of it, for a simple hobby. These are great chips (as are all motorola chips, I am currently using a 68332), and I would love to be able to use one in a design, unfortunately I cannot justify the cost of the compiler. Does anyone here know where I can get a GNU compiler port to this DSP? I already use (and love) the GCC on my '332 based board, so I am really familure with that, but if there are any other free compilers that would be great too. It would be really nice if they ran in Linux (my dev env runs linux) but not necessary. If I have posted this to the wrong list, I am sorry, could you please point me to the correct list? Thanks, Mike <http://rd.yahoo.com/M!5002.1711356.3237013.1261774/D=egroupweb/S057718 55:HM/A7665/R=0/*http://ads.x10.com/?bHlhaG9vbW9uc3RlcjcuZGF005142368% 3eM!5002.1711356.3237013.1261774/D=egroupweb/S05771855:HM/A7665/R=1 <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M!5002.1711356.3237013.1261774/D=egroupmai l/S05771855:HM/A7665/rand88020189> _____________________________________ Note: If you do a simple "reply" with your email client, only the author of this message will receive your answer. You need to do a "reply all" if you want your answer to be distributed to the entire group. _____________________________________ About this discussion group: To Join: To Post: To Leave: Archives: http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/motoroladsp <http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/motoroladsp> More Groups: http://www.dsprelated.com/groups.php3 <http://www.dsprelated.com/groups.php3 ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . |
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Reply by ●November 7, 20012001-11-07
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Unfortunately the complimentary offer for CodeWarrior tools with the purchase of EVM board (for $295) has expired in October. I believe that new price for CodeWarrior license is around $1200, but you should really check with your local distributor. Leonard N. Elevich Motorola DSPD -----Original Message----- From: Haile, David [mailto:] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 8:24 AM To: ; Subject: RE: [motoroladsp] DSP56F8xx tools question I believe the whole package including compiler, evaluation module (PC board with lots of peripherals) and parallel JTAG converter is $295 now. We have two or three of them. I've been using them for three months and it seems to work well. I'm just using it until we layout our own board. -----Original Message----- From: [mailto:] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:23 PM To: Subject: [motoroladsp] DSP56F8xx tools question I have been browsing the Motorola web page, and I found what looks like a really great DSP/MPU that would fit in really well with some of my hobby robotics projects. I have found that the DSP56F8xx chips are perfect for hobby robotics apps, they are cheap, they are fast, they are available in a non BGA package ;), and they have all kinds of built on motion control peripherals. There is just one problem... I cannot seem to find a free (low cost) compiler for them. I noticed that code warrior supports them, but there is no way that you can expect a hobbiest to be able to afford the $2500 cost of it, for a simple hobby. These are great chips (as are all motorola chips, I am currently using a 68332), and I would love to be able to use one in a design, unfortunately I cannot justify the cost of the compiler. Does anyone here know where I can get a GNU compiler port to this DSP? I already use (and love) the GCC on my '332 based board, so I am really familure with that, but if there are any other free compilers that would be great too. It would be really nice if they ran in Linux (my dev env runs linux) but not necessary. If I have posted this to the wrong list, I am sorry, could you please point me to the correct list? Thanks, Mike <http://rd.yahoo.com/M!5002.1711356.3237013.1261774/D=egroupweb/S057718 55:HM/A7665/R=0/*http://ads.x10.com/?bHlhaG9vbW9uc3RlcjcuZGF005142368% 3eM!5002.1711356.3237013.1261774/D=egroupweb/S05771855:HM/A7665/R=1 <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M!5002.1711356.3237013.1261774/D=egroupmai l/S05771855:HM/A7665/rand88020189> _____________________________________ Note: If you do a simple "reply" with your email client, only the author of this message will receive your answer. You need to do a "reply all" if you want your answer to be distributed to the entire group. _____________________________________ About this discussion group: To Join: To Post: To Leave: Archives: http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/motoroladsp <http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/motoroladsp> More Groups: http://www.dsprelated.com/groups.php3 <http://www.dsprelated.com/groups.php3 ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . _____________________________________ Note: If you do a simple "reply" with your email client, only the author of this message will receive your answer. You need to do a "reply all" if you want your answer to be distributed to the entire group. _____________________________________ About this discussion group: To Join: To Post: To Leave: Archives: http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/motoroladsp More Groups: http://www.dsprelated.com/groups.php3 ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
Reply by ●November 8, 20012001-11-08
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Mike ... I have a DSP56811EVM kit which I'm almost positive included the Domain Technologies debugger and the Motorola freebie C compiler and assembler. After playing with the '002 and the '307 I really didn't care much at all for the '811 as it hacked away to much of the best of the DSP capabilities I was used to in order to fit in the general purpose microprocessor functions. I hardly used it at all before I tossed it in the "archive" box. I know where my old kit is but haven't rummaged through it yet, and would be happy to part with it if it is of any help to you. E-mail me directly if you have any interest. Blessings in abundance, all the best, and ENJOY! Art Du Rea Hellam, Pennsylvania USA At 03:00 PM 11/7/01 -0700, Elevich wrote: >Unfortunately the complimentary offer for CodeWarrior tools with the >purchase of EVM board (for $295) has expired in October. I believe that new >price for CodeWarrior license is around $1200, but you should really check >with your local distributor. > >Leonard N. Elevich >Motorola DSPD >-----1st Reply----- >From: Haile, David [mailto:] >Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 8:24 AM > >I believe the whole package including compiler, evaluation module (PC board >with lots of peripherals) and parallel JTAG converter is $295 now. We have >two or three of them. I've been using them for three months and it seems to >work well. I'm just using it until we layout our own board. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [mailto:] >Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:23 PM > >I have been browsing the Motorola web page, >and I found what looks like a really great >DSP/MPU that would fit in really well with >some of my hobby robotics projects. I have >found that the DSP56F8xx chips are perfect >for hobby robotics apps, they are cheap, >they are fast, they are available in a non BGA >package ;), and they have all kinds of >built on motion control peripherals. There >is just one problem... I cannot seem to find >a free (low cost) compiler for them. I noticed >that code warrior supports them, but there is >no way that you can expect a hobbiest to be able >to afford the $2500 cost of it, for a simple >hobby. These are great chips (as are all motorola >chips, I am currently using a 68332), and I would >love to be able to use one in a design, unfortunately >I cannot justify the cost of the compiler. Does >anyone here know where I can get a GNU compiler >port to this DSP? I already use (and love) the GCC >on my '332 based board, so I am really >familure with that, but if there are any other >free compilers that would be great too. It would >be really nice if they ran in Linux (my dev env >runs linux) but not necessary. >Mike |
Reply by ●November 9, 20012001-11-09
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Unfortunately, the Domain debugger contained in the DSP56811EVM kit does not support any newer devices than possibly the 56824, if it is even usable with even that. The 56811 has been discontinued for a long time. The old assembler and linker in the EVM kid may work, but beyond using those to generate an SREC file to put code into an EPROM, you'd have to debug blind. (CodeWarrior won't let you debug unless it downloads something first, and then it is not as easily used as the Suite56 debugger or the Domain debugger.) You might be able to get the DSP to execute out of external memory and have it burn the internal flash on the newer 56F8xx, but again, you'd have to debug it blind. -david >I have a DSP56811EVM kit which I'm almost positive included the Domain >Technologies debugger and the Motorola freebie C compiler and assembler. >After playing with the '002 and the '307 I really didn't care much at all >for the '811 as it hacked away to much of the best of the DSP capabilities >I was used to in order to fit in the general purpose microprocessor >functions. I hardly used it at all before I tossed it in the "archive" >box. I know where my old kit is but haven't rummaged through it yet, and >would be happy to part with it if it is of any help to you. E-mail me >directly if you have any interest. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp |
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Reply by ●November 9, 20012001-11-09
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David ... You wouldn't have a (soft/hard) copy of the old '811 EVM manual would you? It wasn't available when I bought my kit, and there was just some stuff in Chapter 12 of one of the other manuals on the CD. It is no big deal ... I may not ever use it, but it would be nice to have "just in case". I don't know of any "archives" available from Motorola. Blessings in abundance, all the best, and ENJOY! Art Du Rea Hellam, Pennsylvania USA |
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Reply by ●November 9, 20012001-11-09
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Art, I am attaching DSP56L811EVM User’s Manual. You can also download it from the following location:
http://merchant.hibbertco.com/servlet/mtrlext.MtrlExtServlet?tp=pdf&cpn=DSP56L811EMUMAD
Leonard N. Elevich Motorola DSPD
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