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DSP5680x: Programming Flash without Codewarrier

Started by Christian Brauchli January 14, 2002
Dear friends of Motorola DSP,
 
I'm looking for a Software to programm the flash of an DSP 5680x (currently I'm using 56807) without using the CodeWarrier IDE.
 
Reason:
Right now we can only program the flash using the JTAG/ONCE Interface and the Codewarrier-IDE to download the *.elf file to the Processor. In about 4 weeks we start with the serie- production of our PCB. The PCB will be programmed in the production line and I don't want to hand out the source-code and the Codewarrier - IDE to the technicians in the shop. I just want to give them the *.elf (S-Record Files) File and a Downloadprogram. (Because the Processor is out of the box, there is no program on it and I don't want to use a serial boot-loader or anything else)
 
Does somebody already programmed such a downloadprogram? If not, is there any interesset here to develop such a program, our company has the possibility to develop such a program. Don't hesitate to get in touch with us.
 
Thanks for the reply
regards
 
Chris Brauchli
c...@brauchli-netsolution.ch
www.brauchli-netsolution.ch



Christian, Unfortunately, I do not know of anyone who has developed such a download
program. If you are not interested in using a serial bootloader though, I'm
not sure of how many easy options are left that already exist that don't
require CodeWarrior. You might be interested to take a look at Application
Note 1926/D which is entitled "Production Flash Programming" that comes
packaged on the SDK or you can find it at:

http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/library/docu_lib.jsp

Be sure to select "Digital Signal Processors", "16-bit data path",
"DSP56800", and "Application Note" when doing the documentation search. You
can leave the "Select a Product" pulldown menu blank.

This application note might have some helpful information for you when
thinking about what you would like to do.

Ron
--
Metrowerks, maker of CodeWarrior - "Software Starts Here"
Ron Liechty - - <http://www.metrowerks.com>


> I'm looking for a Software to programm the flash of an DSP 5680x
> (currently I'm using 56807) without using the CodeWarrier IDE.
>
> Reason:
> Right now we can only program the flash using the JTAG/ONCE Interface
> and the Codewarrier-IDE to download the *.elf file to the Processor. In
> about 4 weeks we start with the serie- production of our PCB. The PCB
> will be programmed in the production line and I don't want to hand out
> the source-code and the Codewarrier - IDE to the technicians in the
> shop.I just want to give them the *.elf (S-Record Files) File and a
> Downloadprogram. (Because the Processor is out of the box, there is no
> program on it and I don't want to use a serial boot-loader or anything
> else)
>
> Does somebody already programmed such a downloadprogram? If not, is
> there any interesset here to develop such a program, our company has the
> possibility to develop such a program. Don't hesitate to get in touch
> with us.
>
> Thanks for the reply
> regards
>
> Chris Brauchli
>
> www.brauchli-netsolution.ch


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FYI on a new product for production flash programming from our third party Domain Technologies. Thanks.

 

To program 56F8xx flash with cBoxView (console app), no debugger supported:

PP-JTAG - $800

To program and/or debug with cBoxView, BoxView or CodeWarrior

SB-USB-LE - $2600

 

PP-JTAG is our version of the printer port interface found on Motorola EVM's but has a

little bit different pin usage, and has built-in serial number chip. You can find some

information at:

http://www.domaintec.com/ppjtag.html

 

The SB-USB is 4 times faster, and is supported with either BoxView or CodeWarrior

debuggers, but for production programming can be used also with the console

application, in the same way as PP-JTAG

http://www.domaintec.com/SBusb.html

 

We also have SB-56K - RS-232 based emulator (same price as SB-USB). I did not

measure flash programming, but it will be a little slower then SB-USB (still faster then

PP-JTAG).

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: MW Ron [mailto:m...@metrowerks.com]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:56 AM
To: Christian Brauchli; m...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motoroladsp] Re: DSP5680x: Programming Flash without Codewarrier

 

Christian, Unfortunately, I do not know of anyone who has developed such a download
program.  If you are not interested in using a serial bootloader though, I'm
not sure of how many easy options are left that already exist that don't
require CodeWarrior.  You might be interested to take a look at Application
Note 1926/D which is entitled "Production Flash Programming" that comes
packaged on the SDK or you can find it at:

http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/library/docu_lib.jsp

Be sure to select "Digital Signal Processors", "16-bit data path",
"DSP56800", and "Application Note" when doing the documentation search.  You
can leave the "Select a Product" pulldown menu blank.

This application note might have some helpful information for you when
thinking about what you would like to do.

Ron
--
Metrowerks, maker of CodeWarrior   -  "Software Starts Here"
Ron Liechty - M...@metrowerks.com - <http://www.metrowerks.com>

 
> I'm looking for a Software to programm the flash of an DSP 5680x
> (currently I'm using 56807) without using the CodeWarrier IDE.
>  
> Reason:
> Right now we can only program the flash using the JTAG/ONCE Interface
> and the Codewarrier-IDE to download the *.elf file to the Processor. In
> about 4 weeks we start with the serie- production of our PCB. The PCB
> will be programmed in the production line and I don't want to hand out
> the source-code and the Codewarrier - IDE to the technicians in the
> shop. I just want to give them the *.elf (S-Record Files) File and a
> Downloadprogram. (Because the Processor is out of the box, there is no
> program on it and I don't want to use a serial boot-loader or anything
> else)
>  
> Does somebody already programmed such a downloadprogram? If not, is
> there any interesset here to develop such a program, our company has the
> possibility to develop such a program. Don't hesitate to get in touch
> with us.
>  
> Thanks for the reply
> regards
>  
> Chris Brauchli
> c...@brauchli-netsolution.ch
> www.brauchli-netsolution.ch --
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We ran into a similar problem with the DSP56F803. When programming with
Codewarrior, it takes about 5 minutes to completely program the code flash.
Our solution was to use Codewarrior to download only the boot flash. The
boot flash then starts up and grabs the program flash image from an external
serial flash chip over the SPI. We then end up with our code in both the
boot flash and the program flash.

The programming of the boot flash from Codewarrior takes about 20secs.
Programming the program flash over the SPI takes about 5 secs. So, the
result is a big throughput increase in production.

It wasn't clear from the original message whether this third party device is
any faster at programming the flash than Codewarrior over the Motorola
parallel interface. But, if it's the same speed (as Motorola) for the
parallel version, a
4 times increase for the USB version is not very impressive.

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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:02:02 -0700
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Subject: RE: Re: DSP5680x: Programming Flash without Codewarrier

FYI on a new product for production flash programming from our third party
Domain Technologies. Thanks.

To program 56F8xx flash with cBoxView (console app), no debugger supported:
PP-JTAG - $800
To program and/or debug with cBoxView, BoxView or CodeWarrior
SB-USB-LE - $2600

PP-JTAG is our version of the printer port interface found on Motorola EVM's
but has a
little bit different pin usage, and has built-in serial number chip. You can
find some
information at:
http://www.domaintec.com/ppjtag.html

The SB-USB is 4 times faster, and is supported with either BoxView or
CodeWarrior
debuggers, but for production programming can be used also with the console
application, in the same way as PP-JTAG
http://www.domaintec.com/SBusb.html

We also have SB-56K - RS-232 based emulator (same price as SB-USB). I did
not
measure flash programming, but it will be a little slower then SB-USB (still
faster then
PP-JTAG). -----Original Message-----
From: MW Ron [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:56 AM
To: Christian Brauchli;
Subject: [motoroladsp] Re: DSP5680x: Programming Flash without Codewarrier

Christian, Unfortunately, I do not know of anyone who has developed such a download
program. If you are not interested in using a serial bootloader though, I'm
not sure of how many easy options are left that already exist that don't
require CodeWarrior. You might be interested to take a look at Application
Note 1926/D which is entitled "Production Flash Programming" that comes
packaged on the SDK or you can find it at:

http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/library/docu_lib.jsp

Be sure to select "Digital Signal Processors", "16-bit data path",
"DSP56800", and "Application Note" when doing the documentation search. You
can leave the "Select a Product" pulldown menu blank.

This application note might have some helpful information for you when
thinking about what you would like to do.

Ron
--
Metrowerks, maker of CodeWarrior - "Software Starts Here"
Ron Liechty - - < http://www.metrowerks.com > I'm looking for a Software to programm the flash of an DSP 5680x
> (currently I'm using 56807) without using the CodeWarrier IDE.
>
> Reason:
> Right now we can only program the flash using the JTAG/ONCE Interface
> and the Codewarrier-IDE to download the *.elf file to the Processor. In
> about 4 weeks we start with the serie- production of our PCB. The PCB
> will be programmed in the production line and I don't want to hand out
> the source-code and the Codewarrier - IDE to the technicians in the
> shop. I just want to give them the *.elf (S-Record Files) File and a
> Downloadprogram. (Because the Processor is out of the box, there is no
> program on it and I don't want to use a serial boot-loader or anything
> else)
>
> Does somebody already programmed such a downloadprogram? If not, is
> there any interesset here to develop such a program, our company has the
> possibility to develop such a program. Don't hesitate to get in touch
> with us.
>
> Thanks for the reply
> regards
>
> Chris Brauchli
>
> www.brauchli-netsolution.ch


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