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MELP Algorithm IP

Started by plsymonds March 8, 2005
Hi All,

I am busy looking into the MELP algorithm and as Texas Instruments
has intellectual property rights on the algorithm I am
interested in finding out more about the legal issues (such as
copyright, royalties etc. etc.) pertaining to the use of the
algorithm. I know that a lot of vocoders are copyright protected,
with the maths being patented in some cases, so one usually
cannot just go ahead with an implementation.

My question therefore is : "Would anyone have any ideas of where I
may get the requisite legal information, or alternatively
who I could get in touch with at TI, with regards to licensing
issues?".

Please note that I have searched the TI website, but to no avail.

Kind regards
Paul




plsymonds wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I am busy looking into the MELP algorithm and as Texas Instruments
> has intellectual property rights on the algorithm I am
> interested in finding out more about the legal issues (such as
> copyright, royalties etc. etc.) pertaining to the use of the
> algorithm. I know that a lot of vocoders are copyright protected,
> with the maths being patented in some cases, so one usually
> cannot just go ahead with an implementation.
>
> My question therefore is : "Would anyone have any ideas of where I
> may get the requisite legal information, or alternatively
> who I could get in touch with at TI, with regards to licensing
> issues?".

I tracked this down a few years ago....

The MELP patents were sold to ASPI, which was purchased by Polycom. You must
contact them to get licensing information. http://www.aspi.com

--
Phil Frisbie, Jr.
Hawk Software
http://www.hawksoft.com


Phil-

> I tracked this down a few years ago....
>
> The MELP patents were sold to ASPI, which was purchased by Polycom. You must
> contact them to get licensing information. http://www.aspi.com

This is incorrect; Polycom has nothing to do with MELP. Read this carefully:

http://www.aspi.com/tech/

The correct info is as follows:

1) There is no IPR for MELP/MELPe when used in mil/gov applications.

2) For commercial apps:

-Texas Instruments owns IPR for MELP 2400 bps; they
will waive fees if a TI chip is used

-Microsoft owns IPR for MELPe 1200 bps (acquired by
purchasing SignalCom in 2001)

-there will be IPR for MELPe 600 bps, probably Harris,
although could be Thales Group. The 600 bps selection
process is ongoing

-if the NPP (noise pre-processing) algorithm specified
in MELPe STANAG 4591 is used, then Lucent is the IPR
holder Anyone who wants individual contact persons for the above companies, please explain
to me why offline, and I will ask those people for permission to give out there info
to you.

-Jeff




Jeff Brower wrote:
> Phil- >>I tracked this down a few years ago....
>>
>>The MELP patents were sold to ASPI, which was purchased by Polycom. You must
>>contact them to get licensing information. http://www.aspi.com
>
> This is incorrect; Polycom has nothing to do with MELP. Read this carefully:
>
> http://www.aspi.com/tech/

Yes, you are correct that the codecs were not part of the Polycom purchase.

> The correct info is as follows:
>
> 1) There is no IPR for MELP/MELPe when used in mil/gov applications.
>
> 2) For commercial apps:
>
> -Texas Instruments owns IPR for MELP 2400 bps; they
> will waive fees if a TI chip is used

That is not what TI told me by telephone in December 2001. They said that all
MELP IP had been sold to ASPI. Craig H. Richardson at ASPI confirmed their IP
rights by email in January 2002, so who should we believe? --
Phil Frisbie, Jr.
Hawk Software
http://www.hawksoft.com