Reply by prow...@tin.it●November 4, 20112011-11-04
Hi Mike,
we have 2 XDS510+ but I also have an XDS100v1 that would be great for working
home.
Are you sure we can use the XDS100 with the 6713?
AFAIK this is not supported (driver unavailable), in fact it's not in the
list of supported processors.
Once I read it was possible to use XDS100 with other processors with CCS 3.3
(that is the one I'm using) via a trick. May be it was the 64x as it is now
supported in CCS 4 and 5, but unfortunately the bookmarked page doesn't
work anymore.
Thanks in advance!
Paolo
>CCS v4 + XDS100 JTAG emulator is the most economical
approach [about $100-150 USD]. >...Texas Instruments is offering Code Composer
Studio^(TM) for FREE for
>use with the USB100v2. Please visit the TI wiki page for the XDS100 for
>news and details on this offer here:
>http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/XDS100
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Reply by "Proware (tin.it)"●November 4, 20112011-11-04
Thank you Richard I appreciate your help, but in any case see Mike's
response.
If you generate the listing, you see it's just a sequence of bytes (no lib,
no
main, no anything else), and indeed it was very good for checking where the
problem lies:
DSK USB XDS100v1
DSK in LE and program compiled in LE : OK OK
DSK in BE and program compiled in BE : OK NOK
It seems (to me) the driver for the XDS100v1 has something "wired" to little
endian.
As Mike said, and I've checked, the DSK USB emulator driver comes from
Spectrum
Digital, while the XDS100's one is from TI. As SD sells the entire DSK, and
it
permits to set the endianity via a switch on the motherboard, it's quite
normal
they permit to develop SW in both endianities and their driver is able to cope
with this.
If you see last response from Mike, he will possibly check
'tixds6000.dvr' vs.
'tixds560c6x.dvr'. May be the driver for the XDS100 (tixds6000.dvr) is
different
from the one for XDS560. I think that beside the obvious differences regarding
the HW of the underlying emulators, there could be other differences : I suppose
the 'tixds6000.dvr' is also "low cost" (I mean TI surely put more
effort on the
XDS560), so something, including endianity handling, is missing/not completely
supported.
As we are lucky to have "Mike the wizard" in the c6x group, may be he'll be
able
to set the final statement on the subject... if he's not busy with
halloween
(pumpkin animated by a cluster of c6000 ?, No, cluster of pumpkins amimated by
clusters of c6000's).
Paolo,
On 10/20/2011 10:31 AM, Proware (tin.it) wrote: >
>
> Hi Mike,
> we have 2 XDS510+ but I also have an XDS100v1 that would be great for
> working home.
> Are you sure we can use the XDS100 with the 6713?
> AFAIK this is not supported (driver unavailable), in fact it's not in
> the list of supported processors.
> Once I read it was possible to use XDS100 with other processors with
> CCS 3.3 (that is the one I'm using) via a trick. May be it was the 64x
> as it is now supported in CCS 4 and 5, but unfortunately the page I
> bookmarked doesn't work anymore.
I do not have access to an XDS100v1, but I will provide some info that
may help.
1. It is possible that the XDS100 may not work. Without getting too
detailed into the internals, I will try to explain a major difference.
The newer generation devices [all c64, c28, and c55 devices] use 38 bit
scan sequences for all operations. The 6713 uses an older generation
scan technology that has about 3500 bits in one of the scan chains. The
FTDI FT2232 device [and/or the software] may not support a buffer that
large and the software to 'find the correct bits' in the buffer.
However, I do not believe that this is the case.
2. You can run an experiment to see if it works. It will definitely add
the option to CCS setup.
A. Make sure CCS is not running.
B. Create a text file with the following contents
---next line is first line of file------
<?xml version="1.0"?>
------previous line is last line----
C. save the file as [make sure you save as ASCII and not Unicode].
C:\CCStudio_v3.3\drivers\TargetDB\drivers\tixds100_c67xx.xml
- replace 'CCStudio_v3.3' with your CCS v3.3 install dir
D. Open CCS setup and you should see 'TMS320C6710' as one of the
options.
E. Try it.
Please let me know if this works.
Thanx,
mikedunn >
> Thanks in advance!
> Paolo
>
> From Mike Dunn (in response to Herschel "Programming TMS320C6713B"
> (http://www.dsprelated.com/groups/c6x/show/14839.php):
> >CCS v4 + XDS100 JTAG emulator is the most economical approach [about
> $100-150 USD].
> >...Texas Instruments is offering Code Composer Studio^(TM) for FREE for
> >use with the USB100v2. Please visit the TI wiki page for the XDS100 for
> >news and details on this offer here:
> >http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/XDS100
>
>
Reply by mikedunn●October 20, 20112011-10-20
Paolo,
On 10/20/2011 10:31 AM, Proware (tin.it) wrote: >
>
> Hi Mike,
> we have 2 XDS510+ but I also have an XDS100v1 that would be great for
> working home.
> Are you sure we can use the XDS100 with the 6713?
> AFAIK this is not supported (driver unavailable), in fact it's not in
> the list of supported processors.
> Once I read it was possible to use XDS100 with other processors with
> CCS 3.3 (that is the one I'm using) via a trick. May be it was the 64x
> as it is now supported in CCS 4 and 5, but unfortunately the page I
> bookmarked doesn't work anymore.
I am pretty sure that I have used 'some version' of the XDS100 with
'some version' of the 6713 and CCS v3 in the past. I am not where I
can
look at it today, but I will try to check it out sometime tomorrow. I
cannot think of any technical reason for it not to work - at the most, I
would expect that it might require a custom CCS setup file.
If you do not see anything from me by Monday, feel free to post 'Any
progress yet??'
mikedunn >
> Thanks in advance!
> Paolo
>
> From Mike Dunn (in response to Herschel "Programming TMS320C6713B"
> (http://www.dsprelated.com/groups/c6x/show/14839.php):
> >CCS v4 + XDS100 JTAG emulator is the most economical approach [about
> $100-150 USD].
> >...Texas Instruments is offering Code Composer Studio^(TM) for FREE for
> >use with the USB100v2. Please visit the TI wiki page for the XDS100 for
> >news and details on this offer here:
> >http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/XDS100
>
>
Reply by "Proware (tin.it)"●October 20, 20112011-10-20
Hi Mike,
we have 2 XDS510+ but I also have an XDS100v1 that would be great for working
home.
Are you sure we can use the XDS100 with the 6713?
AFAIK this is not supported (driver unavailable), in fact it's not in the
list of supported processors.
Once I read it was possible to use XDS100 with other processors with CCS 3.3
(that is the one I'm using) via a trick. May be it was the 64x as it is now
supported in CCS 4 and 5, but unfortunately the page I bookmarked doesn't
work anymore.
Thanks in advance!
Paolo
From Mike Dunn (in response to Herschel "Programming TMS320C6713B"
(http://www.dsprelated.com/groups/c6x/show/14839.php): >CCS v4 + XDS100 JTAG emulator is the most economical
approach [about $100-150 USD]. >...Texas Instruments is offering Code Composer
Studio^(TM) for FREE for
>use with the USB100v2. Please visit the TI wiki page for the XDS100 for
>news and details on this offer here:
>http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/XDS100
Reply by mikedunn●June 30, 20112011-06-30
Herschel,
I agree with Jeff that the c672x is a much better choice than the older
c671x devices.
mikedunn
On 6/30/2011 11:24 AM, Jeff Brower wrote: >
> Herschel-
>
> > Thanks for the info and I am starting all over again with C672x series.
>
> Ok... due diligence :-)
>
> -Jeff
>
> > --- On Thu, 30/6/11, Jeff Brower
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Jeff Brower
> >
> > Subject: Re: [c6x] Programming TMS320C6713B
> > To: c...
> > Cc: h...@yahoo.co.uk
>
> > Date: Thursday, 30 June, 2011, 0:43
> >
> > Herschel-
> >
> > Have you had a look at the C672x series? A couple are slightly
> faster than the C6713-300, but have substantial
> > advantages in onchip memory / cache amounts, peripheral support, and
> package size.
> >
> > As these are much newer devices, online support (peer groups like
> this plus TI's e2e forum) is likely to be more
> > readily available and in-depth.
> >
> > Not to say that C6713 is not a good choice, just wondering if you've
> checked all alternatives.
> >
> > -Jeff
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I am new to TI DSPs. I have experience in Microchip's DSCs (33
> series). Right now I am in the midst of designing an
> >> audio project and selected the above DSP. I want to know the most
> simplest and cost effective way to program the
> >> TMS320C6713B. Can it be done through the UART port.
> >> My project involves with 192k and 32 bit resolution and unable to
> use DSK as this does not support.
> >> Any document on how to program the chip would be ideal.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Herschel
> >
> >
Reply by Jeff Brower●June 30, 20112011-06-30
Herschel-
> Thanks for the info and I am starting all over again
with C672x series.
Ok... due diligence :-)
-Jeff
> --- On Thu, 30/6/11, Jeff Brower
wrote:
>
> From: Jeff Brower
> Subject: Re: [c6x] Programming TMS320C6713B
> To: c...
> Cc: h...@yahoo.co.uk
> Date: Thursday, 30 June, 2011, 0:43
>
> Herschel-
>
> Have you had a look at the C672x series? A couple are slightly faster than
the C6713-300, but have substantial
> advantages in onchip memory / cache amounts, peripheral support, and package
size.
>
> As these are much newer devices, online support (peer groups like this plus
TI's e2e forum) is likely to be more
> readily available and in-depth.
>
> Not to say that C6713 is not a good choice, just wondering if you've
checked all alternatives.
>
> -Jeff
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am new to TI DSPs. I have experience in Microchip's DSCs (33 series).
Right now I am in the midst of designing an
>> audio project and selected the above DSP. I want to know the most simplest
and cost effective way to program the
>> TMS320C6713B. Can it be done through the UART port.
>> My project involves with 192k and 32 bit resolution and unable to use DSK as
this does not support.
>> Any document on how to program the chip would be ideal.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Herschel
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Reply by Jeff Brower●June 29, 20112011-06-29
Herschel-
Have you had a look at the C672x series? A couple are slightly faster than the
C6713-300, but have substantial
advantages in onchip memory / cache amounts, peripheral support, and package
size.
As these are much newer devices, online support (peer groups like this plus
TI's e2e forum) is likely to be more
readily available and in-depth.
Not to say that C6713 is not a good choice, just wondering if you've
checked all alternatives.
-Jeff
> Hi All,
>
> I am new to TI DSPs. I have experience in Microchip's DSCs (33 series).
Right now I am in the midst of designing an
> audio project and selected the above DSP. I want to know the most simplest and
cost effective way to program the
> TMS320C6713B. Can it be done through the UART port.
> My project involves with 192k and 32 bit resolution and unable to use DSK as
this does not support.
> Any document on how to program the chip would be ideal.
>
> Thanks
>
> Herschel
_____________________________________
Reply by mikedunn●June 29, 20112011-06-29
Welcome aboard Herschel,
CCS v4 + XDS100 JTAG emulator is the most economical approach [about
$100-150 USD].
...Texas Instruments is offering Code Composer Studio^(TM) for FREE for
use with the USB100v2. Please visit the TI wiki page for the XDS100 for
news and details on this offer here: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/XDS100
On 6/29/2011 9:18 AM, h...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >
> Hi All,
>
> I am new to TI DSPs. I have experience in Microchip's DSCs (33
> series). Right now I am in the midst of designing an audio project and
> selected the above DSP. I want to know the most simplest and cost
> effective way to program the TMS320C6713B. Can it be done through the
> UART port.
> no. >
> My project involves with 192k and 32 bit resolution and unable to use
> DSK as this does not support.
> Any document on how to program the chip would be ideal.
>
For 95+% of the cases it is pretty much like a micro that you program in
C. Do not waste your time trying to get a handle on the assembler out of
the gate. The biggest decision is whether to use SYS/BIOS [probably yes].
TI's C compiler is pretty good. Learn the I/Os that you will use, get a
handle on interrupts, and EDMA and you will be good to go.
NOTE: with CCS v4 and SYS/BIOS you will probably face a large learning
curve. Familiarize yourself with the tools before you start 'slinging
project code'.
mikedunn > Thanks
>
> Herschel
Reply by hers...@yahoo.co.uk●June 29, 20112011-06-29
Hi All,
I am new to TI DSPs. I have experience in Microchip's DSCs (33 series).
Right now I am in the midst of designing an audio project and selected the above
DSP. I want to know the most simplest and cost effective way to program the
TMS320C6713B. Can it be done through the UART port.
My project involves with 192k and 32 bit resolution and unable to use DSK as
this does not support.
Any document on how to program the chip would be ideal.