Brown, John L.
Sampling bandlimited periodic signals - an application of the DFT
IEEE Transactions on Education (Volume:23, Issue: 4, Nov 1980)
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?arnumber=4321415
i would really appreciate it.
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r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
hay, can any of you IEEE guys get me a copy of this paper?
Started by ●February 15, 2015
Reply by ●February 16, 20152015-02-16
This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-532119277-1424087158=:11466 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1502161246241.11466@anapnea.net> On February 15th, 2015, Robert Bristow-Johnson sent a request about: |----------------------------------------------------------------------| |" Brown, John L. | | | | Sampling bandlimited periodic signals - an application of the DFT | | | | IEEE Transactions on Education (Volume:23, Issue: 4, Nov 1980) | | | | http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?arnumber=3D4321415 | | | | | |i would really appreciate it." | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| Dear Mr. Bristow-Johnson: I would be able to provide you with a copy of this scientific article, were a so-called university not being very unethically obstructive, as it apparently does have a copy according to HTTP://WebOPAC.SIB.UC.Pt : "T=C3=ADtulo IEEE transactions on education. T=C3=ADtulo Adic IEEE trans. ed. IEEE transactions on education Publica=C3=A7=C3=A3o/Produ=C3=A7=C3=A3o New York : IEEE, 1963. Descri=C3=A7=C3=A3o F=C3=ADsica V. : il. ; 28 cm. Periodicidade anterior Trimestral Numera=C3=A7=C3=A3o Vol. 6(1963)-. Continua de: IRE Transactions on Education. ISSN =09 0018-9359 Outro Autor Institute of Electrical And Electronics Engineers, editor comercial. Assunto =09 Engenharia electr=C3=B3nica -- educa=C3=A7=C3=A3o CDU =09 (05) Cota=09 SALA B39 - ESTANTE 269 Biblioteca UCFCT F=C3=ADsica Existencias=09Vol. 6(1963)-Vol. 41(1998) Nota 1 =09=09Faltam: N=C2=BA 3-4 do vol. 28(1985) ; Vol. 29(1986)". You could attempt to request permission for me to fetch this scientific article, if you would also request for me to fetch another scientific article, i.e. Stradling, G. F. (1907), "A r=C3=A9sum=C3=A9 of the literature of the N ray= s, the N1 rays, the physiological rays and the heavy emission, with a bibliography", "Journal of the Franklin Institute", 164, 57=E2=80=9374, 113=E2=80=93130, 177=E2=80=93189. If you would plan to make this request, then fax it to 00351 239825161. Yours sincerely, Colin Paul Gloster --8323328-532119277-1424087158=:11466--
Reply by ●February 19, 20152015-02-19
okay, i got a copy of the paper i asked for from multiple sources that will remain unidentified. thanks guys. if anyone else has written about this specific topic, as how to explicitly reconstruct the periodic and bandlimited continuous-time x(t) from the periodic samples x[n] (where x[n+N]=x[n]) for the case where N is even, i would like to see the paper. for N odd, it's just like the Dirichlet thingie. but with N even, it's slightly different. we have discussed before i know. the only place i can find it is here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.dsp/Sxf0IktA4UA/zjPm-vGdj0QJ but there was another where someone else checked my result (given the same assumption about even N). thanks, guys. r b-j On 2/16/15 6:46 AM, Colin Paul Gloster wrote:> On February 15th, 2015, Robert Bristow-Johnson sent a request about: > |----------------------------------------------------------------------| > |" Brown, John L. | > | | > | Sampling bandlimited periodic signals - an application of the DFT | > | | > | IEEE Transactions on Education (Volume:23, Issue: 4, Nov 1980) | > | | > | http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?arnumber=4321415 | > | | > | | > |i would really appreciate it." | > |----------------------------------------------------------------------| > > > Dear Mr. Bristow-Johnson: > > I would be able to provide you with a copy of this scientific article, > were a so-called university not being very unethically obstructive, as > it apparently does have a copy according to > HTTP://WebOPAC.SIB.UC.Pt > : "Título IEEE transactions on education. > Título Adic IEEE trans. ed. > IEEE transactions on education > Publicação/Produção New York : IEEE, 1963. > Descrição Física V. : il. ; 28 cm. > Periodicidade anterior Trimestral > Numeração Vol. 6(1963)-. > Continua de: IRE Transactions on Education. > ISSN 0018-9359 > Outro Autor Institute of Electrical And Electronics > Engineers, editor comercial. > Assunto Engenharia electrónica -- educação > CDU (05) > Cota SALA B39 - ESTANTE 269 > Biblioteca UCFCT Física > Existencias Vol. 6(1963)-Vol. 41(1998) > Nota 1 Faltam: Nº 3-4 do vol. 28(1985) ; > Vol. 29(1986)". > > You could attempt to request permission for me to fetch this > scientific article, if you would also request for me to fetch another > scientific article, i.e. > Stradling, G. F. (1907), "A résumé of the literature of the N rays, > the N1 rays, the physiological rays and the heavy emission, with a > bibliography", "Journal of the Franklin Institute", 164, 57–74, > 113–130, 177–189. > > If you would plan to make this request, then fax it to 00351 > 239825161. > > Yours sincerely, > Colin Paul Gloster-- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
Reply by ●February 22, 20152015-02-22
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:25:18 -0500, robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote:> >okay, i got a copy of the paper i asked for from multiple sources that >will remain unidentified. thanks guys.Well, I tried but it wasn't part of my particular ieeexplore subsription. I have quite a problem with the way the IEEE doesn't let you see what societies you need to join in order to download certain conference papers. boB K7IQ> >if anyone else has written about this specific topic, as how to >explicitly reconstruct the periodic and bandlimited continuous-time x(t) >from the periodic samples x[n] (where x[n+N]=x[n]) for the case where N >is even, i would like to see the paper. for N odd, it's just like the >Dirichlet thingie. but with N even, it's slightly different. > >we have discussed before i know. the only place i can find it is here: > > >https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.dsp/Sxf0IktA4UA/zjPm-vGdj0QJ > > >but there was another where someone else checked my result (given the >same assumption about even N). > >thanks, guys. > >r b-j > >On 2/16/15 6:46 AM, Colin Paul Gloster wrote: >> On February 15th, 2015, Robert Bristow-Johnson sent a request about: >> |----------------------------------------------------------------------| >> |" Brown, John L. | >> | | >> | Sampling bandlimited periodic signals - an application of the DFT | >> | | >> | IEEE Transactions on Education (Volume:23, Issue: 4, Nov 1980) | >> | | >> | http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?arnumber=4321415 | >> | | >> | | >> |i would really appreciate it." | >> |----------------------------------------------------------------------| >> >> >> Dear Mr. Bristow-Johnson: >> >> I would be able to provide you with a copy of this scientific article, >> were a so-called university not being very unethically obstructive, as >> it apparently does have a copy according to >> HTTP://WebOPAC.SIB.UC.Pt >> : "T�tulo IEEE transactions on education. >> T�tulo Adic IEEE trans. ed. >> IEEE transactions on education >> Publica��o/Produ��o New York : IEEE, 1963. >> Descri��o F�sica V. : il. ; 28 cm. >> Periodicidade anterior Trimestral >> Numera��o Vol. 6(1963)-. >> Continua de: IRE Transactions on Education. >> ISSN 0018-9359 >> Outro Autor Institute of Electrical And Electronics >> Engineers, editor comercial. >> Assunto Engenharia electr�nica -- educa��o >> CDU (05) >> Cota SALA B39 - ESTANTE 269 >> Biblioteca UCFCT F�sica >> Existencias Vol. 6(1963)-Vol. 41(1998) >> Nota 1 Faltam: N� 3-4 do vol. 28(1985) ; >> Vol. 29(1986)". >> >> You could attempt to request permission for me to fetch this >> scientific article, if you would also request for me to fetch another >> scientific article, i.e. >> Stradling, G. F. (1907), "A r�sum� of the literature of the N rays, >> the N1 rays, the physiological rays and the heavy emission, with a >> bibliography", "Journal of the Franklin Institute", 164, 57�74, >> 113�130, 177�189. >> >> If you would plan to make this request, then fax it to 00351 >> 239825161. >> >> Yours sincerely, >> Colin Paul Gloster
Reply by ●February 22, 20152015-02-22
On 2/21/2015 11:42 PM, boB wrote:> Well, I tried but it wasn't part of my particular ieeexplore > subsription. I have quite a problem with the way the IEEE doesn't let > you see what societies you need to join in order to download certain > conference papers. > > boBThat seems to be an excellent case for an anti-monopoly, class action lawsuit. -Ramon
Reply by ●February 22, 20152015-02-22
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 21:42:32 -0800, boB wrote:>On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:25:18 -0500, robert bristow-johnson ><rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote: > >> >>okay, i got a copy of the paper i asked for from multiple sources that >>will remain unidentified. thanks guys. > > >Well, I tried but it wasn't part of my particular ieeexplore >subsription. I have quite a problem with the way the IEEE doesn't let >you see what societies you need to join in order to download certain >conference papers. > >boB >K7IQboB, You have to subscribe to the rip-off scam IEEEXplore digital library for $40/mo unless you have institution access as far as I know. Some societies, like Signal Processing, have expanded access. There is a list somewhere of what you get access to. On another note, are you going to come to the PNW AES meeting in March? Ryan McCauley and I are going to be giving a talk and demo about audio band test and measurement systems. I guess there is a venue issue right now so they don't have the exact date set. Mark
Reply by ●February 23, 20152015-02-23
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 15:22:01 -0800, Mac Decman <dearman.mark@gmail.com> wrote:>On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 21:42:32 -0800, boB wrote: > >>On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:25:18 -0500, robert bristow-johnson >><rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>okay, i got a copy of the paper i asked for from multiple sources that >>>will remain unidentified. thanks guys. >> >> >>Well, I tried but it wasn't part of my particular ieeexplore >>subsription. I have quite a problem with the way the IEEE doesn't let >>you see what societies you need to join in order to download certain >>conference papers. >> >>boB >>K7IQ > >boB, > >You have to subscribe to the rip-off scam IEEEXplore digital library >for $40/mo unless you have institution access as far as I know. Some >societies, like Signal Processing, have expanded access. There is a >list somewhere of what you get access to. > >On another note, are you going to come to the PNW AES meeting in >March? Ryan McCauley and I are going to be giving a talk and demo >about audio band test and measurement systems. I guess there is a >venue issue right now so they don't have the exact date set. > >MarkHi Mark. Yes, I will most likely be there. I am aware of the venue inscrinuity but that should be easy to figure out. On those papers, I can normally find the proper society to join to be able to get the paper subjects that I most often need. This should be out in the open without having to research the subject of course. I think that $40/month digital library might be severely limited to the number of downloads per month but I may be remembering wrong. I have also had problems where the system would not give me the green un-locked symbol on papers I should be able to download and also have had it where it was green and still told me I couldn't download the paper. They appear to have fixed that pretty much but it took a LOT of emails to support to get them to llisten to me. There was a couple months back then (few years ago) where they gave me free digital library access which was nice. there were STILL papers that were not supported in the digital library as I understand that really started to piss me off. International stuff IIRC. Why do they even put some of that stuff up in the list of downloads after a search ? There is probably a society to join in order to download them but I'll be darned if I can figure it out. See you in March ! boB K7IQ
Reply by ●February 23, 20152015-02-23
On February 22nd, 2015, Ramon F Herrera sent: |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"On 2/21/2015 11:42 PM, boB wrote: | |> Well, I tried but it wasn't part of my particular ieeexplore | |> subsription. I have quite a problem with the way the IEEE doesn't let | |> you see what societies you need to join in order to download certain | |> conference papers. | |> | |> boB | | | | | |That seems to be an excellent case for an anti-monopoly, class action lawsuit.| | | |-Ramon" | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Dear all: The IEEE perpetrates scientific malconduct. Some examples were reported on news:comp.dsp years ago. More examples are reported on e.g. HTTP://DieHimmelIstSchoen.BlogSpot.com These and other examples could be considered if suing the IEEE. The Internet and I could provide more examples. I would be willing to testify as an expert witness for gratis. This is not a real email address and unfortunately I do not have much time to access Usenet this decade. If you wish to proceed to sue the I.E.E. so-called Engineers then I would be glad to help, but I might not see responses in these newsgroups. I reported contact details for me on HTTP://CeasefireMagazine.co.UK/neoliberalism-higher-education-sanaz-rajis-struggle-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-352180 Good luck. With best regards, Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
Reply by ●February 23, 20152015-02-23
On 2/23/15 12:23 PM, Paul Colin de Gloucester wrote:> > The IEEE perpetrates scientific malconduct. Some examples were > reported on news:comp.dsp years ago. More examples are reported on > e.g. HTTP://DieHimmelIstSchoen.BlogSpot.com > > These and other examples could be considered if suing the IEEE. The > Internet and I could provide more examples. I would be willing to > testify as an expert witness for gratis.boy, sure glad i ain't IEEE and be part of the defendant in such a case. i would rather just screw over IEEE by denying them my money and getting around any pay wall by approaching the authors directly. but in this case the paper was 1980 and i think the author might not be residing on this planet any more.> This is not a real email address and unfortunately I do not have much > time to access Usenet this decade. If you wish to proceed to sue the > I.E.E. so-called Engineers then I would be glad to help, but I might > not see responses in these newsgroups. I reported contact details for > me on > HTTP://CeasefireMagazine.co.UK/neoliberalism-higher-education-sanaz-rajis-struggle-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-352180go get 'em, Batman! -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
Reply by ●February 25, 20152015-02-25
On 2/23/2015 12:23 PM, Paul Colin de Gloucester wrote:> On February 22nd, 2015, Ramon F Herrera sent: > |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| > > |"On 2/21/2015 11:42 PM, boB > wrote: | > |> Well, I tried but it wasn't part of my particular > ieeexplore | > |> subsription. I have quite a problem with the way the IEEE doesn't > let | > |> you see what societies you need to join in order to download > certain | > |> conference > papers. | > |> > | > |> > boB > | > | > | > | > | > |That seems to be an excellent case for an anti-monopoly, class action > lawsuit.| > | > | > |-Ramon" > | > |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| > > > Dear all: > > The IEEE perpetrates scientific malconduct. Some examples were > reported on news:comp.dsp years ago. More examples are reported on > e.g. > HTTP://DieHimmelIstSchoen.BlogSpot.com > > These and other examples could be considered if suing the IEEE. The > Internet and I could provide more examples. I would be willing to > testify as an expert witness for gratis. > > This is not a real email address and unfortunately I do not have much > time to access Usenet this decade. If you wish to proceed to sue the > I.E.E. so-called Engineers then I would be glad to help, but I might > not see responses in these newsgroups. I reported contact details for > me on > HTTP://CeasefireMagazine.co.UK/neoliberalism-higher-education-sanaz-rajis-struggle-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-352180I was a member for awhile and became active in the local chapters... until I learned that they ignore their own rules and run it like a good ol' boys (and girls) club. When I looked into the process for making complaints about ethics violations I found that the onus is entirely on the complainant to prove their case including appearing in Piscataway, NJ at their request. They have no interest in investigating any reports that aren't 100% proven. I guess you can't expect much else from a volunteer organization. -- Rick
