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TMS320C6211 vs. TMX320C6211

Started by Unknown May 17, 2001
Hello all,

Does anyone out there know any tricks to determining the difference
between the TMS and TMX versions of the C6211? Normally a chip
version can be determined by the upper half of the CSR (the 8-bit
Chip ID and 8-bit Rev ID)... but in this case it seems that the TMS
and TMX 6211 have identical CSRs. Does anyone know another way to
check it, or know of a hack (e.g testing for errata symptoms) that
has been known to work? Any info would be appreciated. Donald Eubanks
Signalogic, Inc.
9617 Wendell Rd. @ Skillman
Dallas, TX 75241
214-343-0069




It is my understanding that TI marks a chip TMX until all qualification
testing has been completed. If no chip revisions are required, then the
part is labelled TMS without requiring updates to the Chip ID or Rev.

Andrew

At 10:42 PM 5/17/01 +0000, wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>Does anyone out there know any tricks to determining the difference
>between the TMS and TMX versions of the C6211? Normally a chip
>version can be determined by the upper half of the CSR (the 8-bit
>Chip ID and 8-bit Rev ID)... but in this case it seems that the TMS
>and TMX 6211 have identical CSRs. Does anyone know another way to
>check it, or know of a hack (e.g testing for errata symptoms) that
>has been known to work? Any info would be appreciated. >Donald Eubanks
>Signalogic, Inc.
>9617 Wendell Rd. @ Skillman
>Dallas, TX 75241
>214-343-0069 >
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It is true that the TMX parts are not completely qualified, whereas
the TMS parts are completely qualified and supported. However, the
chip revision is independant of the TMS/TMX classification. In the
errata for the TMS320C6211 series, you can see that different
problems occur on different revisions. Some occur only on early class
parts (TMX), some occur only on later parts (TMS), and some occur on
all revisions, regardless of TMS or TMX. The particular problem I am
dealing with is documented as only affecting the TMX chips (revisions
1.0 and 1.1). The functions I perform work flawlessly on the TMS, and
with a minor code change, they work flawlessly on the TMX... I just
want the same code to run on both boards, which means I need to have
dynamic board detection...

Anyone know any smooth tricks (e.g. errata symptom detection) or know
a place on the chip where I can get accurate revision ID and/or chip
ID (besides the CSR)?

Any help would be appreciated,

-Donald Eubanks
Signalogic, Inc.

--- In c6x@y..., Andrew Elder <andrew_elder@b...> wrote:

It is my understanding that TI marks a chip TMX until all
qualification testing has been completed. If no chip revisions are
required, then the part is labelled TMS without requiring updates to
the Chip ID or Rev.



Andrew-

>It is my understanding that TI marks a chip TMX until all qualification
>testing has been completed. If no chip revisions are required, then the
>part is labelled TMS without requiring updates to the Chip ID or Rev.

Maybe, but if the silicon actually *is* different, then why doesn't the CSR
value change? For example, the TMX C6211 has a McBSP bug, the TMS C6211 fixes
this bug. If it walks like a silicon change, talks like one, smells like one...

Jeff Brower
Signalogic

>At 10:42 PM 5/17/01 +0000, wrote:
>>Hello all,
>>
>>Does anyone out there know any tricks to determining the difference
>>between the TMS and TMX versions of the C6211? Normally a chip
>>version can be determined by the upper half of the CSR (the 8-bit
>>Chip ID and 8-bit Rev ID)... but in this case it seems that the TMS
>>and TMX 6211 have identical CSRs. Does anyone know another way to
>>check it, or know of a hack (e.g testing for errata symptoms) that
>>has been known to work? Any info would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>>Donald Eubanks
>>Signalogic, Inc.
>>9617 Wendell Rd. @ Skillman
>>Dallas, TX 75241
>>214-343-0069