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Jeff, If you are having problems with noise on long JTAG chains, try to buffer the JTAG lines. I have seen boards with 16 C6000 DSPs on a single chain that worked just fine. I guess the trick may be in keeping the JTAG lines well laid out on the PCB. If it is too late for adding buffers, you can use an emulator that buffers the JTAG signals right at the JTAG target header, before they go into the several inches of the emulator cable. I believe Signum is the only company that does it -see www.signum.com/jtagjet.htm It also lets you change the JTAG clock in steps from 1 kHz to 30 MHz with software. You can send us your board and we will test it at the desired JTAG clock at no charge. Jerry Lewandowski Signum Systems Corp. www.signum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Brower" <> To: "Gagan Singh" <> Cc: <>; <>; <> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:36 AM Subject: [c6x] Re: [c55x] CC and JTAG with other devices in the scan chain > Gagan- > > > The JTAG clock freq control is provided > > in the POD only. It is for the manufacure to give > > some kind of interface to do so. In my case we did > > use flexds emulators. They did provided control to > > change JTAG clock by jumper settings in the POD > > itself. > > Ok, score one for Flexds emulators, that is an excellent feature. I think I will > e-mail the Mike and Danny at Spectrum Digital and see what is their suggestion on how > to do it with their units. > > Jeff Brower > system engineer > Signalogic > > Plus u have to specify the same in ur config file > > placed mostly in ..\ti\cc\bin > > > > Regards > > Gagan |
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Re: [c6x] Re: [c55x] CC and JTAG with other devices in the scan chain
Started by ●June 5, 2003
Reply by ●June 5, 20032003-06-05
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Jerry- > If you are having problems with noise on long JTAG chains, > try to buffer the JTAG lines. I have seen boards with 16 C6000 > DSPs on a single chain that worked just fine. We do that as much as possible, but in many cases we don't have room for buffers, or at least more than one set. The boards are typically small and dense, 10 layer to 16-layer, two examples are shown at: http://www.signalogic.com/sigc67xx_sodimm.htm http://www.signalogic.com/sigc5441_sar_ptmc.htm The first one gave us a lot of JTAG trouble because we needed a bus switch to select between CPLD JTAG and DSP JTAG chain, so we sacrificed the buffer, relying on the buffer on the base board. Bad move. The buffer is back on now, wedged in there somehow. > I guess the trick may be in keeping the JTAG lines well laid out on the PCB. Yep we always pay very careful attention to that. We also leave zero-ohm Rs to allow the chain to be shortened at several points. But even an inch or so on a gnd-protected clock trace layer can still be enough to cause problems with TCK, it's just very sensitive to any acquired noise. I would say this signal is not a favorite of our engineers. > If it is too late for adding buffers, you can use an emulator that buffers the > JTAG signals right at the JTAG target header, before they go into > the several inches of the emulator cable. > I believe Signum is the only company that does it -see www.signum.com/jtagjet.htm > It also lets you change the JTAG clock in steps from 1 kHz to 30 MHz > with software. With software? Those are very good features. > You can send us your board and we will test it at the desired JTAG clock > at no charge. Yes I will keep this in mind! Thanks Jerry. Jeff Brower system engineer Signalogic > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Brower" <> > To: "Gagan Singh" <> > Cc: <>; <>; <> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:36 AM > Subject: [c6x] Re: [c55x] CC and JTAG with other devices in the scan chain > > > Gagan- > > > > > The JTAG clock freq control is provided > > > in the POD only. It is for the manufacure to give > > > some kind of interface to do so. In my case we did > > > use flexds emulators. They did provided control to > > > change JTAG clock by jumper settings in the POD > > > itself. > > > > Ok, score one for Flexds emulators, that is an excellent feature. I think I will > > e-mail the Mike and Danny at Spectrum Digital and see what is their suggestion on how > > to do it with their units. > > > > Jeff Brower > > system engineer > > Signalogic > > > > > > > Plus u have to specify the same in ur config file > > > placed mostly in ..\ti\cc\bin > > > > > > Regards > > > Gagan |
