Randy Yates wrote:> robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> writes: > > >>well, Clay, i have to admit to being a little bit of a northern bigot. >>partly because of some of the sociology of the south (which is >>multidimensional - race, religion, education, politics, etc. > > > Are you saying you're a bigot of the south because it's a bunch of > bigots???Sure. Just like we dream of killing all the non-pacifists. :-) In 1988, the Denver Broncos and the Washington Redskins Faced off in the Superbowl. The Redskins quarterback, Doug Williams, was black. The smart money was on Denver largely because many knew that a black quarterback couldn't win the big one. Red Barber, who had been the Brooklyn Dodgers radio announcer, had a weekly slot in NPR's "All Things Considered". His southern accent put me off in the days of Senator Bilbo and frequent lynchings, and I had an unwarranted distaste for him that took effort to suppress even while being enchanted by his extraordinary charm. On Barber's first radio appearance after the '88 Superbowl, the announcer and interlocutor asked him what he thought of it. He responded with obvious glee, "That'll teach'm what color a quarterback has to be!" That brought home to me how easily bigotry settles into most of us. (I see bigotry as using trivial characteristics -- color, accent, birthday, etc. -- as evidence of what a person is like. Usually but not always, antipathy is part of it.) I wrote to Barber, telling him that I was ashamed and apologizing for an insult he never knew of. He wrote back, saying that the better of us put those things behind us in time, and suggesting that I withdraw the apology. He wrote that Branch Rickey had to talk him out of resigning because Jackie Robinson had joined the team. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
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in article xxpll8orhsq.fsf@usrts005.corpusers.net, Randy Yates at randy.yates@sonyericsson.com wrote on 03/15/2005 11:32:> robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> writes: > >> well, Clay, i have to admit to being a little bit of a northern bigot. >> partly because of some of the sociology of the south (which is >> multidimensional - race, religion, education, politics, etc. > > Are you saying you're a bigot of the south because it's a bunch of > bigots???not everyone! for sure! and i'm not saying there ain't any bigots in the North. e.g. any black folks living in Cicero Illinois yet? but it's the multidimensional sociology, and i'm sure, that if we were to get into *real* specifics, it could get heated. i could really offend some folks about *any* of those topics: race, religion, education, politics, ... even more. without going deeper into it (and offending you or some others that may be right of center), it is so many of the political and sociological issues that current define the U.S., that are epitomized in the South (solid red states), that are, in my opinion, an embarrassment and an indictment of the nation in the eyes of the rest of the world. the Death Penalty, the Gog-and-Country religious milieu, guns (we got them in Vermont, big time, it's the only state i know of that any non-felon can be walking down the street, packing CONCEALED heat, and NO paperwork, no permit, no nothing is necessary), unenlightened marijuana laws, environment, belligerent foreign policy vis-a-vis W, etc. and we haven't even gotten to health care policy which is a national shame. -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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in article xxpll8orhsq.fsf@usrts005.corpusers.net, Randy Yates at randy.yates@sonyericsson.com wrote on 03/15/2005 11:32:> Are you saying you're a bigot of the south because it's a bunch of > bigots???oh, and BTW, i think that folks like Jimmy Carter, and Millar Fuller (Habitat for Humanity) and some other sourtherners like that are okay. there are some cool DSP folks like you and David Horton etc. that know and respect. i have relatives in Texas and Oklahoma (and i was born in northern Texas), both whom are good folks and incandescent rednecks. also, perhaps i will someday, but other than being born in Texas (6 months before moving to my childhood home in North Dakota), visiting Austin in 1990 to interview for Motorola (nothing offered), and fiddling around a little in Arlington/Falls Church Virginia around DC, i have *never* been to Dixieland. not even Orlando. -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> writes:> in article xxpll8orhsq.fsf@usrts005.corpusers.net, Randy Yates at > randy.yates@sonyericsson.com wrote on 03/15/2005 11:32: > > > robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> writes: > > > >> well, Clay, i have to admit to being a little bit of a northern bigot. > >> partly because of some of the sociology of the south (which is > >> multidimensional - race, religion, education, politics, etc. > > > > Are you saying you're a bigot of the south because it's a bunch of > > bigots??? > > not everyone! for sure! and i'm not saying there ain't any bigots in the > North. e.g. any black folks living in Cicero Illinois yet? > > but it's the multidimensional sociology, and i'm sure, that if we were to > get into *real* specifics, it could get heated. i could really offend some > folks about *any* of those topics: race, religion, education, politics, ... > even more. > > without going deeper into it (and offending you or some others that may be > right of center), it is so many of the political and sociological issues > that current define the U.S., that are epitomized in the South (solid red > states), that are, in my opinion, an embarrassment and an indictment of the > nation in the eyes of the rest of the world. the Death Penalty, the > Gog-and-Country religious milieu, guns (we got them in Vermont, big time, > it's the only state i know of that any non-felon can be walking down the > street, packing CONCEALED heat, and NO paperwork, no permit, no nothing is > necessary), unenlightened marijuana laws, environment, belligerent foreign > policy vis-a-vis W, etc. and we haven't even gotten to health care policy > which is a national shame.Well, I'd piss on a spark plug if it'd help, but foreign policy, marijuana laws, and health care are national issues, last I checked. And essentially you've just said, "I don't want to offend you but... you stink." Hey, Robert, it's a free usenet. Unfortunately I think most of our major issues are NOT demographic-specific. -- Randy Yates Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications Research Triangle Park, NC, USA randy.yates@sonyericsson.com, 919-472-1124
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robert bristow-johnson wrote:> in article xxpll8orhsq.fsf@usrts005.corpusers.net, Randy Yates at > randy.yates@sonyericsson.com wrote on 03/15/2005 11:32: > > >>Are you saying you're a bigot of the south because it's a bunch of >>bigots??? > > > oh, and BTW, i think that folks like Jimmy Carter, and Millar Fuller > (Habitat for Humanity) and some other sourtherners like that are okay. > there are some cool DSP folks like you and David Horton etc. that know and > respect. i have relatives in Texas and Oklahoma (and i was born in northern > Texas),Although he didn't list it in his official biography during the 2000 election, W, was born in Connecticut. His grandfather was a US senator from Ct. Maybe you and He could petition the legislatures in both states to exchange official birth places. both whom are good folks and incandescent rednecks.> > also, perhaps i will someday, but other than being born in Texas (6 months > before moving to my childhood home in North Dakota), visiting Austin in 1990 > to interview for Motorola (nothing offered), and fiddling around a little in > Arlington/Falls Church Virginia around DC, i have *never* been to Dixieland. > not even Orlando. >
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robert bristow-johnson wrote:>[ SNIP ;} > > without going deeper into it (and offending you or some others that may be > right of center), ...Not to worry, we are the "right" after all ;) [ pun intended ] Seriously, any of the 'right' who take offense at disagreeing points of view simply because they disagree do not deserve the designation "right of center". BTW, I'm politically conservative and sociologically liberal. Do I tend to get it from *both* sides ;}! Signed Goldwater republican who voted for Johnson now living in Missouri
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robert bristow-johnson wrote:> in article wlCZd.36050$5T6.15802@bignews4.bellsouth.net, Clay S. Turner at > Physics@Bellsouth.net wrote on 03/15/2005 09:33: > > >>>>So Spring has sprung here. >>> >>>they're talking about it here. SAP RUNS SOON!!! mmmmmmmn! >>> >>>but it sure looks like winter in Vermont. >>> >> >>Your Spring will come soon enough. And enjoy that maple syrup. It is as >>expensive as gold down here. While you are lamenting your brutal northern >>winters, just think about our 100 degree F days with 100% humidity during >>the summer. Plus there are all of the insects you could ever want. Flying >>Cockroaches are fun. They hang out by the porch light and when you go >>through the doorway at night, they fly over to your back so you bring them >>into the house. > > > well, Clay, i have to admit to being a little bit of a northern bigot. > partly because of some of the sociology of the south (which is > multidimensional - race, religion, education, politics, etc. - i'm a big > blue stater living in a "big" blue state), partly that i *do* like having > four seasons, partly that i *do* like only to have to run my A/C maybe twice > or three times a year (once in a while, even we get dog days in the summer). > anyway, because i live by woods by the lake (Champlain), we get some nasty > mosquitoes here, too. in the spring, there is about a two week period when > it's warm enough to lie in the hammock out back before them nasty-ass > mosquitoes start happenin'. then i have to bring the hammock in, because if > i don't just cover myself with DEET, they will carry me away. fortunately, > no cockroaches. lot'sa microscopic ants. >Clay and Robert, You invited to move to SW Missouri. In 14 years the biggest snowfall was ~14". I've seen ~dozen mosquitoes. What we lack is people. Population of state < New York City.
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"Clay S. Turner" <Physics@Bellsouth.net> writes:> Here in Atlanta, we were 78F yesterday. But this is the > time of year we still have some cold days. > Saturday I hiked up to the top of Brasstown BaldHiked? Is this the one where you park about 100 yards from the top and walk a (mildly steep) paved trail from there to the visitor center?> (The tallest peak in Georgia - N34 52 27.7 W83 48 40.3 > elevation 4784Feet)Lowest point in Colorado is about the same.
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in article xxphdjcrdui.fsf@usrts005.corpusers.net, Randy Yates at randy.yates@sonyericsson.com wrote on 03/15/2005 12:57:> And essentially you've just said, "I don't want to offend you > but... you stink." Hey, Robert, it's a free usenet.I DID NOT! i dunno where you are on most of these issues, Randy. all's i know is that you live in North Carolina and you like it, AND THAT'S NOT BAD! (if i ever get to visit your fine state, i wanna visit Asheville. i hear it's a lot like Burlington VT, but in the south.) -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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Jerry Avins wrote: ...> On Barber's first radio appearance after the '88 Superbowl, the > announcer and interlocutor ...Bob Edwards. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
