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Started by Jon February 26, 2005
Richard Owlett wrote:

> Tim Wescott wrote: > >> >> Both abbreviations and acronyms should be written out with all caps -- >> although some acronyms get into lower case laser-quick; you have to >> keep your radar screens in tune ... >> > > Hum. Shouldn't that be "your RADAR screens in tune ..." ;? >
You only found one? -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com
Tim Wescott wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote: > >> Tim Wescott wrote: >> >>> >>> Both abbreviations and acronyms should be written out with all caps >>> -- although some acronyms get into lower case laser-quick; you have >>> to keep your radar screens in tune ... >>> >> >> Hum. Shouldn't that be "your RADAR screens in tune ..." ;? >> > You only found one? >
So you just shed light on my low pass filter nature.
Tim Wescott <tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> writes:
> [...] > Both abbreviations and acronyms should be written out with all caps
Proof by assertion? I've given a legitimate, formal case where they're not, so such a statement without any justification sounds a lot like braggadoccio. -- % Randy Yates % "Though you ride on the wheels of tomorrow, %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % you still wander the fields of your %%% 919-577-9882 % sorrow." %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % '21st Century Man', *Time*, ELO http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr
Randy Yates wrote:

> Tim Wescott <tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> writes: > >>[...] >>Both abbreviations and acronyms should be written out with all caps > > > Proof by assertion? I've given a legitimate, formal case where they're > not, so such a statement without any justification sounds a lot like > braggadoccio.
Yes, by god! You're too used to mathematics where that's Against the Rules -- this here be Style! I mean, if e e cummings can get away without caps in his _name_, for crying out loud, surely I can make such assertions? Perhaps you should re-read my post, ask yourself where the words "laser", "radar" and "snafu" came from, and note the case of the letters that I used. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com
Martin Saxon wrote:
> Tim Wescott wrote: > >>Both abbreviations and acronyms should be written out with all caps -- >>although some acronyms get into lower case laser-quick; you have to >>keep your radar screens in tune to find all the cases but even then >>you can run into the occasional snafu. > > > ISTM that when on their own RMS, AC, DC etc. should be written in upper > case, but when used as qualifiers (Vrms, Vac, Vdc) they would normally be > written in lower case.
I like that distinction. Good style! Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. &#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;
Richard Owlett wrote:
> Tim Wescott wrote: > >> >> Both abbreviations and acronyms should be written out with all caps -- >> although some acronyms get into lower case laser-quick; you have to >> keep your radar screens in tune ... >> > > Hum. Shouldn't that be "your RADAR screens in tune ..." ;?
That kind of snafu can happen to the best of us. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. &#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;
Tim Wescott wrote:
> Randy Yates wrote: > >> Tim Wescott <tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> writes: >> >>> [...] >>> Both abbreviations and acronyms should be written out with all caps >> >> >> >> Proof by assertion? I've given a legitimate, formal case where they're >> not, so such a statement without any justification sounds a lot like >> braggadoccio. > > > Yes, by god! You're too used to mathematics where that's Against the > Rules -- this here be Style! I mean, if e e cummings can get away > without caps in his _name_, for crying out loud, surely I can make such > assertions? > > Perhaps you should re-read my post, ask yourself where the words > "laser", "radar" and "snafu" came from, and note the case of the letters > that I used.
It was a sad day for us when my wife-to-be and I found "E. E. Cummings" in the Boston phone directory. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. &#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;
in article WaqdnUc_W78tPL_fRVn-rg@rcn.net, Jerry Avins at jya@ieee.org wrote
on 02/27/2005 23:44:

> It was a sad day for us when my wife-to-be and I found "E. E. Cummings" > in the Boston phone directory.
listen, i've been trying to get those bastards to stop abbreviating my name as Robt. who the fuck is "Robt"?! Robot?? and they haven't gotten my address right either. after nearly 5 years. bastards. if they don't (or didn't) respect ol' e.e., they ain't gonna respect fred harris either. (my decapitalizations exist only in the cyber-slew.) -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
"Jon" <u035m4i02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:422137C3.8060602@sneakemail.com...
> Tim Wescott wrote: > > > If the digital signal is a linear representation of a real-world signal > > then the "digital power" will be proportional to real power -- so if a > > "digital power" of 0.1 (full scale)^2/sec generates a 2.5 watt output > > then a "digital power" of 1.0 (full scale)^2/sec will generate 25 watts. > > Ok, I kind of understand. > > > Your mention of dB_FS is more to the point: expressing gains and signal > > levels in dB is extremely convenient in signal processing. The fact > > that it implies a power level may be confusing, but as I stated before > > if the processing is all linear then you will ultimately be able to > > equate it to an input power or an output power. > > Oh yeah, dB are technically related to power levels in the first place > (10*log10) and voltage decibels are a 20*log10 afterthought. I assume > the dB I am using on screen are related to 20*log10, because they are > referring to amplitude levels. Hmmm... but the "average RMS power" is
Jon - I don't think there is 'voltage decibel' and a 'power decibel'. There is just decibel. If you have voltage values to start with, then your conversion to dB uses a certain formula (20*log10) and if you have power values, you use another (10*log10). Perhaps, this separation in thought will help make things more clear for you.
> expressed in dB(FS?) as well. Ok I think this is making some sense... > > -- > Include "newsgroup" in the subject line to reply by email (or get dumped > with the spam).
robt bristow-johnson wrote:
> in article WaqdnUc_W78tPL_fRVn-rg@rcn.net, Jerry Avins at jya@ieee.org wrote > on 02/27/2005 23:44: > > >>It was a sad day for us when my wife-to-be and I found "E. E. Cummings" >>in the Boston phone directory. > > > listen, i've been trying to get those bastards to stop abbreviating my name > as Robt. who the fuck is "Robt"?! Robot?? and they haven't gotten my > address right either. after nearly 5 years. bastards. > > if they don't (or didn't) respect ol' e.e., they ain't gonna respect fred > harris either. (my decapitalizations exist only in the cyber-slew.)
You think you have trouble? There were once three different listings in the Brooklyn phone directory with my number. One was mine, and one was for somebody a few miles away. The third was for someone way out of the exchange area who happened to have the same name as an an acquaintance in Greenwich Village. (We had a bit of fun with that.) Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. &#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;