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TI dsp debuggers

Started by Alex Gibson October 30, 2005
Need to get a debugger for C6000 chips (DM642 )

Looking at the spectrum digital XDS510 USB JTAG Emulator

Can anyone comment on reliability ?

How resilient is the cable and can it be easily replaced ?

Any annoyances or problems to be aware of ?

Thank you
Alex


"Alex Gibson" <news@alxx.net> writes:

> Need to get a debugger for C6000 chips (DM642 ) > > Looking at the spectrum digital XDS510 USB JTAG Emulator > > Can anyone comment on reliability ? > > How resilient is the cable and can it be easily replaced ? > > Any annoyances or problems to be aware of ? > > Thank you > Alex
I think you've got a winner. I've been using their PP XDS510 with the DM642 with no problems. The USB version should be faster and more convenient. Of course the XDS560 would be faster, but it's more $$$. -- % Randy Yates % "Rollin' and riding and slippin' and %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % sliding, it's magic." %%% 919-577-9882 % %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % 'Living' Thing', *A New World Record*, ELO http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr
Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> writes:

> "Alex Gibson" <news@alxx.net> writes: > >> Need to get a debugger for C6000 chips (DM642 ) >> >> Looking at the spectrum digital XDS510 USB JTAG Emulator >> >> Can anyone comment on reliability ? >> >> How resilient is the cable and can it be easily replaced ? >> >> Any annoyances or problems to be aware of ? >> >> Thank you >> Alex > > I think you've got a winner. I've been using their PP XDS510 with the > DM642 with no problems. The USB version should be faster and more > convenient. > > Of course the XDS560 would be faster, but it's more $$$.
Let me add another plug for Spectrum Digital. A few weeks ago I called about a problem I was having with the USB 560 device. I received the most comprehensive and patient customer support I believe I've ever had from any technology manufacturer. The technician was extremely kind, patient, and knowledgable. However, I did not get my problem fixed since I was doing something quite unusual - trying to run this on a linux-hosted VMWare windows system. The problem is apparently something in the VMWare handled the USB. -- % Randy Yates % "I met someone who looks alot like you, %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % she does the things you do, %%% 919-577-9882 % but she is an IBM." %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % 'Yours Truly, 2095', *Time*, ELO http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr
"Randy Yates" <yates@ieee.org> wrote in message 
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> Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> writes: > >> "Alex Gibson" <news@alxx.net> writes: >> >>> Need to get a debugger for C6000 chips (DM642 ) >>> >>> Looking at the spectrum digital XDS510 USB JTAG Emulator >>> >>> Can anyone comment on reliability ? >>> >>> How resilient is the cable and can it be easily replaced ? >>> >>> Any annoyances or problems to be aware of ? >>> >>> Thank you >>> Alex >> >> I think you've got a winner. I've been using their PP XDS510 with the >> DM642 with no problems. The USB version should be faster and more >> convenient. >> >> Of course the XDS560 would be faster, but it's more $$$. > > Let me add another plug for Spectrum Digital. A few weeks ago I > called about a problem I was having with the USB 560 device. I > received the most comprehensive and patient customer support I > believe I've ever had from any technology manufacturer. The > technician was extremely kind, patient, and knowledgable. > > However, I did not get my problem fixed since I was doing something > quite unusual - trying to run this on a linux-hosted VMWare windows > system. The problem is apparently something in the VMWare handled the > USB.
Sounds pretty good. Just a bit wary of TI and debugging with CCstudio especially after wasting lots of time with C6711 dsks (parallel port) and software crashes , lock ups and lots of rebooting of windows. C6711 dsk - Worst / least stable development board I have ever used. Not sure which version the boards we have are. Alex
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 02:39:02 +0000, Randy Yates wrote:
> However, I did not get my problem fixed since I was doing something > quite unusual - trying to run this on a linux-hosted VMWare windows > system. The problem is apparently something in the VMWare handled the > USB.
Just out of interest: have you tried it under Wine? It's many years since I did anything with wine, so I don't know how the project is going, but sometimes that can work quite well, in my experience. -- Andrew
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:32:51 +1100, "Alex Gibson" <news@alxx.net>
wrote in comp.dsp:

> > Need to get a debugger for C6000 chips (DM642 ) > > Looking at the spectrum digital XDS510 USB JTAG Emulator > > Can anyone comment on reliability ? > > How resilient is the cable and can it be easily replaced ? > > Any annoyances or problems to be aware of ? > > Thank you > Alex
We've been using a handful of the parallel version of the 510 for several years on a series of boards with the 2812. We had come problems early on with the cables from the debugger pod to the JTAG header on the board. Since these are motion control systems, quite often the board under test has to move with the debugger plugged in. Once we had our techs reterminate the board end of these cables with good strain relief, we haven't had any problems at all. In fact, we never had any problems with the units themselves, only the cable terminations. -- Jack Klein Home: http://JK-Technology.Com FAQs for comp.lang.c http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html comp.lang.c++ http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/ alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++ http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~ajo/docs/FAQ-acllc.html
"Randy Yates" <yates@ieee.org> wrote in message
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> However, I did not get my problem fixed since I was doing something > quite unusual - trying to run this on a linux-hosted VMWare windows > system. The problem is apparently something in the VMWare handled the > USB.
If it's any consolation I have tried running a 6713DSK USB CCS under Windows hosted VMWare and couldn't get it to work either - I won't bore you with why you would ever want to do it that way. Kind Regards, Howard
"Alex Gibson" <news@alxx.net> wrote in message
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> Just a bit wary of TI and debugging with CCstudio > especially after wasting lots of time with C6711 > dsks (parallel port) and software crashes , lock ups and > lots of rebooting of windows. > > C6711 dsk - Worst / least stable development board I have ever used. > Not sure which version the boards we have are.
In contrast FWIW, I find the Spectrum Digital 6713 DSK under USB to be very stable (but not under VMWare!). Kind Regards, Howard

Alex Gibson wrote:
> > Looking at the spectrum digital XDS510 USB JTAG Emulator
Hurry up - SD had the XDS510 on special offer, but according to the email I had, the offer finishes today (31/10)! I bought a USB one while they were on offer for working at home, but I've not had much chance to use it much yet. It does look a little bit flimsy, though, and is noticably slower than the XDS560. The cable on the XDS510 is permanantly attached, so probably can't be replaced easily. The XDS560 cable plugs into the card, so presumably could be replaced, although the cable has a pod in it so it won't be cheap. Our XDS560 cable has been heavily used and abused and is still going strong. Cheers mark-r -- "Let's meet the panel. You couldn't ask for four finer comedians - so that answers your next question..." -- Humphrey Lyttleton
"Howard Long" <howard@howardlongxxx.com> wrote in message 
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> "Alex Gibson" <news@alxx.net> wrote in message > news:3slcqfFp029hU1@individual.net... >> Just a bit wary of TI and debugging with CCstudio >> especially after wasting lots of time with C6711 >> dsks (parallel port) and software crashes , lock ups and >> lots of rebooting of windows. >> >> C6711 dsk - Worst / least stable development board I have ever used. >> Not sure which version the boards we have are. > > In contrast FWIW, I find the Spectrum Digital 6713 DSK under USB to be > very > stable (but not under VMWare!). > > Kind Regards, Howard
The usb C6713 is fantastic compared to the C6711 dsk. CCS 3.1 still locks up occassionally when debugging but can recover from a crash without having to reboot windows. Alex