Radium wrote:>>First of all, you're very, very *very* mistaken in the statement >>that digital audio can only have one format. > > I was only applying that statement to uncompression digital audio. > There are many types of formats for compressed digital audio. What > formats -- other than PCM -- exist for uncompressed digital audio.Differential encoding (notice, *encoding* and not compression), spectral encoding, wavelet-based encoding, delta encoding (not sure what the official name is), 1-bit oversampling (though this one falls in the PCM category, but it is substantially different in terms of how it ultimately works). Again, the "intent" of your question was fine, in that in practical terms, each of these encoding schemes could be used as one of the encoding blocks for individual features or components of a video signal --- as a result, there would be a ratio > 1 between the number of encodings for uncompressed video vs. number of encodings for uncompressed audio. Carlos --
Uncompressed Digital Video vs. Uncompressed Digital Audio
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:> Carlos Moreno wrote: > > Please don't feed the troll. He'll argue with you, no matter what > you say.True that his original message could conceivably be the result of a troll doing his trolling. But he didn't sound too confrontational and certainly didn't argue too much with my reply. Seemed like a legitimate question to me, even if one that could have been answered by thinking about it for a little while. Still, I found it ok. Carlos --
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Elan Magavi wrote:>>Yes, that is what the OP said. Your reading is excellent. > > [...] You're writing is excellent.^^^^^^^^ Too bad that the same can not be said about you're's... ;-) Carlos --
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On 2/12/2007, Carlos Moreno posted this:> Elan Magavi wrote: > >>>Yes, that is what the OP said. Your reading is excellent. >> >> [...] You're writing is excellent. > ^^^^^^^^ > > Too bad that the same can not be said about you're's... ;-) > > > CarlosI think your wrong. In fact, the same can be said about hi's :-) Or is it his'? Oh, I *hate* apostrophes! -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:35:44 -0800, in 'rec.video.desktop', in article <Re: Uncompressed Digital Video vs. Uncompressed Digital Audio>, Gene E. Bloch <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote:>On 2/12/2007, Carlos Moreno posted this: >> Elan Magavi wrote: >> >>>>Yes, that is what the OP said. Your reading is excellent. >>> >>> [...] You're writing is excellent. >> ^^^^^^^^ >> >> Too bad that the same can not be said about you're's... ;-) >> >> >> Carlos > >I think your wrong.That should be: I think you're wrong. As in, "I think you are wrong"; "you are" contracts to "you're".>In fact, the same can be said about hi's :-) > >Or is it his'? > >Oh, I *hate* apostrophes!Whatever happened to basic education in this country? No wonder what's her name's baby is the hot news story of the month. :) -- Frank, Independent Consultant, New York, NY [Please remove 'nojunkmail.' from address to reply via e-mail.] Read Frank's thoughts on HDV at http://www.humanvalues.net/hdv/
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On 2/12/2007, Frank posted this:> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:35:44 -0800, in 'rec.video.desktop', > in article <Re: Uncompressed Digital Video vs. Uncompressed Digital > Audio>, > Gene E. Bloch <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2/12/2007, Carlos Moreno posted this: >>> Elan Magavi wrote: >>> >>>>> Yes, that is what the OP said. Your reading is excellent. >>>> >>>> [...] You're writing is excellent. >>> ^^^^^^^^ >>> >>> Too bad that the same can not be said about you're's... ;-) >>> >>> >>> Carlos >> >> I think your wrong. > > That should be: I think you're wrong. > > As in, "I think you are wrong"; "you are" contracts to "you're". > >> In fact, the same can be said about hi's :-) >> >> Or is it his'? >> >> Oh, I *hate* apostrophes! > > Whatever happened to basic education in this country? > > No wonder what's her name's baby is the hot news story of the month. > :)Whatever happened to the idea of humor in this country? In case you didnt' catch on, m'y response was further satire in response to Fran'ks satire :-) -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")
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someone wrote:> Why is it that uncompressed digital video can have so many format > [such and RGB as well as linear PCM] but uncompressed digital audio > can only have one format -- PCM??1) There is more than one format for uncompressed digital audio (a *lot* more if you have to deal in cross-platform and legacy format conversion tools). 2) Video information has more dimensions (both in physical 2D or 3D space, and in color space or spectrum) to record, so there are a lot more choices of vector basis, scaling, orientation, and bit-formatting, etc., even before compression. IMHO. YMMV. -- rhn A.T nicholson d.0.t C-o-M
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:31:19 -0800, in 'rec.video.desktop', in article <Re: Uncompressed Digital Video vs. Uncompressed Digital Audio>, Gene E. Bloch <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote:>On 2/12/2007, Frank posted this: >> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:35:44 -0800, in 'rec.video.desktop', >> in article <Re: Uncompressed Digital Video vs. Uncompressed Digital >> Audio>, >> Gene E. Bloch <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On 2/12/2007, Carlos Moreno posted this: >>>> Elan Magavi wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Yes, that is what the OP said. Your reading is excellent. >>>>> >>>>> [...] You're writing is excellent. >>>> ^^^^^^^^ >>>> >>>> Too bad that the same can not be said about you're's... ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> Carlos >>> >>> I think your wrong. >> >> That should be: I think you're wrong. >> >> As in, "I think you are wrong"; "you are" contracts to "you're". >> >>> In fact, the same can be said about hi's :-) >>> >>> Or is it his'? >>> >>> Oh, I *hate* apostrophes! >> >> Whatever happened to basic education in this country? >> >> No wonder what's her name's baby is the hot news story of the month. >> :) > >Whatever happened to the idea of humor in this country? > >In case you didnt' catch on, m'y response was further satire in >response to Fran'ks satire :-)I know that, Gene! -- Frank, Independent Consultant, New York, NY [Please remove 'nojunkmail.' from address to reply via e-mail.] Read Frank's thoughts on HDV at http://www.humanvalues.net/hdv/
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On 2/12/2007, Frank posted this:> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:31:19 -0800, in 'rec.video.desktop', > in article <Re: Uncompressed Digital Video vs. Uncompressed Digital > Audio>, > Gene E. Bloch <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2/12/2007, Frank posted this: >>> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:35:44 -0800, in 'rec.video.desktop', >>> in article <Re: Uncompressed Digital Video vs. Uncompressed Digital >>> Audio>, >>> Gene E. Bloch <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2/12/2007, Carlos Moreno posted this: >>>>> Elan Magavi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, that is what the OP said. Your reading is excellent. >>>>>> >>>>>> [...] You're writing is excellent. >>>>> ^^^^^^^^ >>>>> >>>>> Too bad that the same can not be said about you're's... ;-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Carlos >>>> >>>> I think your wrong. >>> >>> That should be: I think you're wrong. >>> >>> As in, "I think you are wrong"; "you are" contracts to "you're". >>> >>>> In fact, the same can be said about hi's :-) >>>> >>>> Or is it his'? >>>> >>>> Oh, I *hate* apostrophes! >>> >>> Whatever happened to basic education in this country? >>> >>> No wonder what's her name's baby is the hot news story of the month. >>> :) >> >> Whatever happened to the idea of humor in this country? >> >> In case you didnt' catch on, m'y response was further satire in >> response to Fran'ks satire :-) > > I know that, Gene!Well, then, you are much too subtle for me :-) -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")
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"Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote in message news:mn.63b77d721063d753.1980@nobody.invalid...> On 2/12/2007, Frank posted this: >> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:31:19 -0800, in 'rec.video.desktop', >> in article <Re: Uncompressed Digital Video vs. Uncompressed Digital >> Audio>, >> Gene E. Bloch <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On 2/12/2007, Frank posted this: >>>> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:35:44 -0800, in 'rec.video.desktop', >>>> in article <Re: Uncompressed Digital Video vs. Uncompressed Digital >>>> Audio>, >>>> Gene E. Bloch <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2/12/2007, Carlos Moreno posted this: >>>>>> Elan Magavi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, that is what the OP said. Your reading is excellent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [...] You're writing is excellent. >>>>>> ^^^^^^^^ >>>>>> >>>>>> Too bad that the same can not be said about you're's... ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlos >>>>> >>>>> I think your wrong. >>>> >>>> That should be: I think you're wrong. >>>> >>>> As in, "I think you are wrong"; "you are" contracts to "you're". >>>> >>>>> In fact, the same can be said about hi's :-) >>>>> >>>>> Or is it his'? >>>>> >>>>> Oh, I *hate* apostrophes! >>>> >>>> Whatever happened to basic education in this country? >>>> >>>> No wonder what's her name's baby is the hot news story of the month. >>>> :) >>> >>> Whatever happened to the idea of humor in this country? >>> >>> In case you didnt' catch on, m'y response was further satire in response >>> to Fran'ks satire :-) >> >> I know that, Gene! > > Well, then, you are much too subtle for me :-)I think your both beeding a dead herse here.
