Hi, I would appreciate if someone could help me by advising me on the implementation of a polyphase FFT filter bank on a FPGA. I understand the basic fundamentals & computationally-efficient/improved side-lobe rejection advantages of polyphase fft filter banks. My implementation is based on a polyphase decimation by D FIR filter and the end application is to split the input ADC samples into 'D' channels. As far as I understand, the output of a polyphase FIR filter (i.e. y(n) ) is obtained by summing the sub-filters i.e. y(n) = Summation [h(i)*x(nD-i)] i=0 to D What I'm not sure about is in order to obtain D number of bins (corresponding D spectral channels), whether I need to take a D-point FFT after summing up the polyphase FIR sub-filters or do I need to multiplex the sub-filters and take a D-point FFT D number of times for each h(i)*x(nD-i) i.e. subfilter. I'm currently only interested in the real FFT outputs and so the complex outputs can be ignored. Any advise/help on this would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance

# Polyphase FFT Filter bank

Started by ●August 14, 2008

Reply by ●August 16, 20082008-08-16

Hi, I would appreciate if someone would be able to advise/point me on the following 2 implementations for a decimation by M Polyphase filter bank. Implementation 1 - I take a M point FFT on the output of each polyphase subfilter to obtain each channel. Implementation 2 - I add the outputs of all the polyphase subfilters and then take a M point FFT to obtain M channels. Would the 2 implementations vary with an variation in M? I'm interested in finding out what the most computationally efficient implementation is on an FPGA and so this question stems from that. If implementation 2 is permissible then this leads to a faster computation as the subfilter outputs don't have to be multiplexed with a FFT (provided that 1 FFT is to be common for all sub-filters). Thanks in advance>Hi, >I would appreciate if someone could help me by advising me on the >implementation of a polyphase FFT filter bank on a FPGA. > >I understand the basic fundamentals & computationally-efficient/improved >side-lobe rejection advantages of polyphase fft filter banks. My >implementation is based on a polyphase decimation by D FIR filter andthe>end application is to split the input ADC samples into 'D' channels. > >As far as I understand, the output of a polyphase FIR filter (i.e. y(n))> >is obtained by summing the sub-filters >i.e. y(n) = Summation [h(i)*x(nD-i)] > i=0 to D > >What I'm not sure about is in order to obtain D number of bins >(corresponding D spectral channels), whether I need to take a D-pointFFT>after summing up the polyphase FIR sub-filters or do I need to multiplex >the sub-filters and take a D-point FFT D number of times for each >h(i)*x(nD-i) i.e. subfilter. I'm currently only interested in the realFFT>outputs and so the complex outputs can be ignored. > >Any advise/help on this would be highly appreciated. > >Thanks in advance > > >

Reply by ●August 19, 20082008-08-19

If I'm following you correctly, you want to use the output of the polyphase legs as the input to the FFT (ie with D legs, you use a D-pt FFT). Don't FFT an individual leg, and don't add the legs and FFT that. I could be wrong however. Check out Fred Harris's multirate DSP book for more info.

Reply by ●August 21, 20082008-08-21

>If I'm following you correctly, you want to use the output of thepolyphase>legs as the input to the FFT (ie with D legs, you use a D-pt FFT).Don't>FFT an individual leg, and don't add the legs and FFT that. I could be >wrong however. Check out Fred Harris's multirate DSP book for moreinfo.>Hi Impoliticus, Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, I don't have access to the book that you recommend. From what I've understood, Polyphase FFT filter banks are a more stringent variant of Weighted Overlap & Add (WOLA). I was just wanting to clarify that in the Polyphase FFT filter bank, do we overlap and add the outputs of each 1/M polyphase subfilter before taking the M point FFT? I would appreciate any suggestions on this Thanks

Reply by ●August 21, 20082008-08-21

On Aug 14, 11:31�am, "schadenfreud" <hitul.s...@gmail.com> wrote:> I would appreciate if someone could help me by advising me on the > implementation of a polyphase FFT filter bank on a FPGA.<snip>> What I'm not sure about is in order to obtain D number of bins > (corresponding D spectral channels), whether I need to take a D-point FFT > after summing up the polyphase FIR sub-filters or do I need to multiplex > the sub-filters and take a D-point FFT D number of times for each > h(i)*x(nD-i) i.e. subfilter.To build an filter bank for demultiplexing an FDM datastream, first do the polyphase filter, then the FFT. To combine separate channels into an FDM stream, do an inverse FFT, then the polyphase filter. fred harris' book "Multirate Signal Processing for Communications Systems" is a great place to learn more about this. Also try googling for 'Transmultiplexer', 'FDM TDM', 'channelizer', etc. One paper I found with details is here: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=10&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telfor.org.yu%2Ftelfor2004%2Fradovi%2FSPS-5-28.PDF&ei=s3WtSOT2PJXkedjh6IUO&usg=AFQjCNEqbtzf2CUIC7aQ3d66iUR-a3HvKw&sig2=Tw4qq4THlbKZ73HKDdrGhA Eric