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complaints on the 800 series and codewarrior...

Started by ouch67 July 21, 2003
1. I mess around with electronics as a hobby so the fact that there
are no dip packages with these chips is a let down (even if the chip
would be something like a 2 foot long for the 807) trying to machine
solder on a surface mount chip by hand usually never works, or if it
does it wasn't worth the trouble.

2. codewarrior is a good program but it's WAY to expensive! you have
inexpensive chips that you program with something that costs more
money than my car!

3. than once you buy codewarrior for it's EXTREMELY high price you
have to buy it again when the next version comes out.

so in short...
motorola: make the 800 series solder iron friendly.
metroworks: stop being so Bill Gates-ish.



I thought Metrowerks was owned by Motorola.  If you are concerned about the high price - why cannot you get one of the specials to work.  It was free with an 801 board.
 
Chris Pollard


Dear critic,

On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 09:15:38PM -0000, ouch67 wrote:
> 1. I mess around with electronics as a hobby so the fact that there
> are no dip packages with these chips is a let down (even if the chip
> would be something like a 2 foot long for the 807) trying to machine
> solder on a surface mount chip by hand usually never works, or if it
> does it wasn't worth the trouble.

I'm soldering all the dsp56800s by hand and it works perfectly. Maybe
you just don't use right tools for that. Try hot-air fan and tin paste
instead :) ... you'll be surprised it will solder itself. And those
tools are really not that expensive. I would like to see manufacturer
who would be able to produce such a dip packake. Do you have any
sugestions on manufacturing process?

> 2. code-warrior is a good program but it's WAY to expensive! you have
> inexpensive chips that you program with something that costs more
> money than my car!

It might be so that it's expensive, but that's how it works. If you
are not satisfied write tools yourself :). Apparently you didn't notice
that Motorola itself is not developing any tools, the Metroworks is and
they want to make living from something. By the way I'm writing free
tool chain base on GNU tools (see http://dsp56800.sourceforge.net/).
The assembler is now pretty useful already. Actually at least I'm
using it quite successfully. But now quite rady yet :))

> 3. than once you buy code-warrior for it's EXTREMELY high price you
> have to buy it again when the next version comes out.

That's how software houses make money. But nobody forces you to
buy new version if you are satisfied with the old one :)

> so in short...
> Motorola: make the 800 series solder iron friendly.
> Metroworks: stop being so Bill Gates-ish.

extremely valuable suggestions :) but you should rather think
them over again!

Regards
Jan




Don't forget that New Micros has an assembler and Small C compiler, both
currently
available for free: http://petegray.newmicros.com

--david --- In , Jan Zizka <janzizka@y...> wrote:
> > 2. code-warrior is a good program but it's WAY to expensive! you have
> > inexpensive chips that you program with something that costs more
> > money than my car!
>
> It might be so that it's expensive, but that's how it works. If you
> are not satisfied write tools yourself :). Apparently you didn't notice
> that Motorola itself is not developing any tools, the Metroworks is and
> they want to make living from something. By the way I'm writing free
> tool chain base on GNU tools (see http://dsp56800.sourceforge.net/).
> The assembler is now pretty useful already. Actually at least I'm
> using it quite successfully. But now quite rady yet :))