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six DFT window functions applied to a 64 point DFT

Started by Blocher's spokesman in comp.dsp18 years ago 2 replies

Hi, I have created a new flash program that shows how windowing is used to reduce leakage in a DFT. The program also discussed magnitude...

Hi, I have created a new flash program that shows how windowing is used to reduce leakage in a DFT. The program also discussed magnitude and power representation of the DFT coefficients. The program allows you to run a 64 point DFT. The DFT allows two frequency inputs with variable gain on the input levels of each frequency. You can apply six window functions and vary the signal...


dft general Q

Started by Vec in comp.dsp21 years ago 9 replies
dft

Hello When a statement like "take 16 point DFT" of the input x[n]. Does that mean the max value of n is 16, I mean an input sequence with...

Hello When a statement like "take 16 point DFT" of the input x[n]. Does that mean the max value of n is 16, I mean an input sequence with say 40000 points, you then take the DFT of this input signal, does that mean you get back 40000 spectral points from the DFT, if yes, than why the literature say 16, or 8 or what ever number pint DFT, why not just say DFT if the input signal. but if ...


DFT Leakage

Started by Sandeep Chikkerur in comp.dsp22 years ago 10 replies
dft

Hi, When the DFT of an integer multiples of the input signal is taken, then the mahgnitude response shows that there are no...

Hi, When the DFT of an integer multiples of the input signal is taken, then the mahgnitude response shows that there are no sidelobes. However, when the DFT of a non-interger multiples of the input signal is taken, we get the sidelobes, which we call the DFT leakage. Ex: when input signal has 5 cycles, and you obtain the DFT at any analysis frequency(m*fs/N), we get only the main l...


DFT Leakage

Started by Rune Allnor in comp.dsp22 years ago 2 replies

> Hi, > > When the DFT of an integer multiples of the input signal is taken, > then the > mahgnitude response shows that there are no...

> Hi, > > When the DFT of an integer multiples of the input signal is taken, > then the > mahgnitude response shows that there are no sidelobes. > > However, when the DFT of a non-interger multiples of the input signal > is taken, > we get the sidelobes, which we call the DFT leakage. > > Ex: > when input signal has 5 cycles, and you obtain the DFT at any analysis > frequency(m*fs/


Doubt regarding DFT and sinc function

Started by mudraraksha in comp.dsp19 years ago 4 replies
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Hello, I am kind of new to DSP and presently going through the book " Understnading DSP" by Richard lyons. On the topic on DFT it says that...

Hello, I am kind of new to DSP and presently going through the book " Understnading DSP" by Richard lyons. On the topic on DFT it says that the max amplitude/gain of the main lobe in the magnitude response of DFT increases with N ( N-point DFT) and the bandwidth reduces. Makes sense. The it goeson derive the DFT of a rectangular function whose magnitude rsponse is simalar to that of a sin...


M point DFT using higher radix-2 FFT

Started by jravi in comp.dsp19 years ago 6 replies

I want to compute an M point DFT of a sequence x(n)where M is not a power of 2. One way to do this would be: 1. Pad (N - M) zeros and compute...

I want to compute an M point DFT of a sequence x(n)where M is not a power of 2. One way to do this would be: 1. Pad (N - M) zeros and compute an N point DFT where N = power of 2 & N > = M. 2. Find the (continuous) DTFT (discrete time fourier transform) of x(n) from the N DFT samples by interpolating the DFT with the sinc function. X(w) = Summation {Y(k)* sinc[N/2 * (w - 2*pi


Computing M point DFT/FFT using radix-2 FFT

Started by jravi in comp.dsp19 years ago 6 replies

I want to compute an M point DFT of a sequence x(n)where M is not a power of 2. One way to do this would be: 1. Pad (N - M) zeros and compute an...

I want to compute an M point DFT of a sequence x(n)where M is not a power of 2. One way to do this would be: 1. Pad (N - M) zeros and compute an N point DFT where N = power of 2. 2. Find the (continuous) DTFT (discrete time fourier transform) of x(n) from the N DFT samples by interpolating the DFT with the sinc function. X(w) = Summation {Y(k)* sinc[N/2 * (w - 2*pi*k/N)] } ...


DFT Blind Spot?

Started by Anonymous in comp.dsp18 years ago 18 replies

I am trying to build up some flash programs to demonstrate the DFT and I am pondering something. I am looking at a 16 point DFT and am...

I am trying to build up some flash programs to demonstrate the DFT and I am pondering something. I am looking at a 16 point DFT and am focusing on the eigth (or ninth, depending on how you look at it) basis function: e^-j2pi*8*n/16. This is also the basis function that is at the folding frequency of the DFT (half the sample rate). what I am realizing is that the DFT will catch cosine en...


Question about DFT

Started by me4dtrade in comp.dsp14 years ago 15 replies

Hi everyone, I have a question about DFT. Let's say the DFT's outputs are F(m). As we all know the m in the DFT equation is an integer (bin...

Hi everyone, I have a question about DFT. Let's say the DFT's outputs are F(m). As we all know the m in the DFT equation is an integer (bin number). My question is: Can I turn this integer m to a floating point number? My point is, if I want to do a 1024 point DFT, and just want to examine a specific range of frequencies (e.g. m = 50 - 51), instead of calculating m[0, 1023], can I do m[...


DFT output size

Started by Syswip in comp.dsp15 years ago 6 replies
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Hi folks, As I know the output of the DFT is N times more than input. I'm doing 16 point DFT. My input samples are in range -32768..32767. It...

Hi folks, As I know the output of the DFT is N times more than input. I'm doing 16 point DFT. My input samples are in range -32768..32767. It means that maximum value of the output must be 32767 * 16 = 524272. But I found the input sample sequence which DFT result is more than the maximum value mentioned above. Is it possible?. Thank you very much. Tiksan.


application of discrete fourier series and discrete fourier transform

Started by Sharan123 in comp.dsp11 years ago 5 replies

Hello, I am able to appreciate what exactly are DFS and DFT, but I would like to know the actual applications of these. I do know that we...

Hello, I am able to appreciate what exactly are DFS and DFT, but I would like to know the actual applications of these. I do know that we do design/analysis of LTI systems using DFT, mostly using response to impulse inputs. But what is the use of DFS? If yes, wouldn't DFT do the same thing? If not, what would be effect of taking DFT of a discrete signal? Thanks a lot ... ---------------...


How to caulate the Frequency Sample Response of IIR Filter?

Started by cweston in comp.dsp11 years ago 7 replies

This has probably been answered already but how does one the 'DFT' samples of an IIR filter from the 'b' and 'a' coefficients. For a FIR,...

This has probably been answered already but how does one the 'DFT' samples of an IIR filter from the 'b' and 'a' coefficients. For a FIR, this is trivial. if b_n are the coefficients which are by definition finite in length. The DFT would be easily calculated as DFT = F*b_n where F is the DFT matrix. How would one specify and calculate each frequency bin amplitude and phase for an I...


number of bits to compute DFT

Started by sharanbr in comp.dsp11 years ago 15 replies

Hello All, I am reading DFT topic where quantization effect is described. One of the example in the book calculates the number of bits...

Hello All, I am reading DFT topic where quantization effect is described. One of the example in the book calculates the number of bits needed to compute the DFT of a 1024 point sequence with a SNR of 30 dB. Here b = 15 bits. My question is whether the size of the sample size does not matter at all for computation of the DFT? If input is composed of 24 bits (for example), would number o...


DFT of sinc signal

Started by manishp in comp.dsp13 years ago 17 replies
dft

Sirs, Looking at the DFT of a sinc signal got me thinking about these questions. If the DFT is about separating the frequency components of...

Sirs, Looking at the DFT of a sinc signal got me thinking about these questions. If the DFT is about separating the frequency components of a signal then how come DFT of sinc signal is a rectangle in the frequency domain, meaning multiple frequency components in frequency domain. A related question, are the lower frequencies corresponding to upper values of the sinc function (that is high...


Smart DFT

Started by Mimar in comp.dsp13 years ago 3 replies

Hello, I am trying to estimate a frequency of power system at the moment, but I have got some problems with methods I have used. Last week...

Hello, I am trying to estimate a frequency of power system at the moment, but I have got some problems with methods I have used. Last week I found out, the smart DFT exists. I hope, it can be a appropriate way for me. But on the net there is not much information about this, I mean, very interesting part of DFT. Can somebody explain me the algorithm of smart DFT? Thank you very much. ...


DFT or DFS: Are they the same thing?

Started by commengr in comp.dsp17 years ago 83 replies

Hello, I have a question, it may be simple but its bugging me, so I need your help. What is the difference between Discrete Fourier Series...

Hello, I have a question, it may be simple but its bugging me, so I need your help. What is the difference between Discrete Fourier Series (DFS) and the Discrete Fourier Transform (DFT) both theoretically and practically Now, I know that we use DFS for the spectral analysis of Periodic sequences and DFT for Aperiodic. (My concept is that in DFT, we have an aperiodic sequence so we decide on ...


DFT and bandpass filters

Started by Michel Rouzic in comp.dsp21 years ago 58 replies

I've a program that does a bandpass filtering using DFT. Firstly I do a real-to-half-complex DFT, then, i set to zero all the samples that are...

I've a program that does a bandpass filtering using DFT. Firstly I do a real-to-half-complex DFT, then, i set to zero all the samples that are not in my wanted frequency range, and then do a half-complex-to-real DFT. It works, the problem is that it creates artifacts at the two limit frequencies, due to the first and last samples of the transformed wave that are rarely near zero. I we...


spectral estimation question

Started by Randy Yates in comp.dsp20 years ago 49 replies

OK, here's one of those "This should be simple..." questions. We know that many (all?) methods of spectral estimation of discrete-time data...

OK, here's one of those "This should be simple..." questions. We know that many (all?) methods of spectral estimation of discrete-time data rely fundamentally on the DFT (the N-point DFT). However, the output of a specific bin of the DFT can be viewed as a bandpass filter. This DFT bandpass filter is not particularly "good," i.e., it has high side lobes and poor stop-band rejection. So...


Recycling FFTs

Started by Andor in comp.dsp20 years ago 1 reply

Friends, assume x[n] is a comlex vector of length 2N, and I want to compute the 2N-point DFT X[k] of x[n]. Also, I am given X1[k] = DFT(x1[n])...

Friends, assume x[n] is a comlex vector of length 2N, and I want to compute the 2N-point DFT X[k] of x[n]. Also, I am given X1[k] = DFT(x1[n]) with x1 = x(0:N-1) and X2[k] = DFT(x2[n]) with x2 = x(N:2N-1). I want to save time computing X by using X1 and X2. DIF gives me X(2 k) = X1(k) + X2(k), so the even indices of X are very smple to compute. Unfortunately, X(2 k + 1) = DFT((x1[n] - x...


SCFDMA

Started by srmanohara in comp.dsp19 years ago 1 reply
dft

I saw SC-FDMA is similar to DFT spread OFDMA. What is this DFT-Spread OFDMA? Why is it called DFT Spread OFDMA? and what is its use. Is it...

I saw SC-FDMA is similar to DFT spread OFDMA. What is this DFT-Spread OFDMA? Why is it called DFT Spread OFDMA? and what is its use. Is it same as SC-FDMA or there is any difference I request your good selves to please help me with how to visualize OFDMA, SC-FDMA and DFT spread OFDMA. thanks Manohara.S.R