[OT] New GNU Octave group

I concur with all of Al's points.

--Randy

Hey Richard,

I don't think there is any such thing, i.e., usenet is not
a "one-server/many client" architecture. It is a
"many-server/many client" architecture. Usenet
articles propagate around the world to all usenet
news servers via the NNTP (Network News Transport
Protocol), then clients suck the news off of their respective
servers. 

I think.

--Randy

On 13 May 2006 14:56:27 -0700, Randy Yates wrote:

> Hey Richard,
> 
> I don't think there is any such thing, i.e., usenet is not
> a "one-server/many client" architecture. It is a
> "many-server/many client" architecture. Usenet
> articles propagate around the world to all usenet
> news servers via the NNTP (Network News Transport
> Protocol), then clients suck the news off of their respective
> servers. 
> 
> I think.
> 
> --Randy

You think correctly

On Sat, 13 May 2006 17:22:36 -0500, BobF wrote:

> On 13 May 2006 14:56:27 -0700, Randy Yates wrote:
> 
>> Hey Richard,
>> 
>> I don't think there is any such thing, i.e., usenet is not
>> a "one-server/many client" architecture. It is a
>> "many-server/many client" architecture. Usenet
>> articles propagate around the world to all usenet
>> news servers via the NNTP (Network News Transport
>> Protocol), then clients suck the news off of their respective
>> servers. 
>> 
>> I think.
>> 
>> --Randy
> 
> You think correctly

As a matter of fact, I have seen public newsgroups created by asking ISP's
to "carry" groups that were privately hosted by a vendor.

If enough people ask their respective ISP to carry comp.soft-sys.octave (or
whatever), it might just "appear".

BobF wrote:
> On Sat, 13 May 2006 17:22:36 -0500, BobF wrote:
> 
> 
>>On 13 May 2006 14:56:27 -0700, Randy Yates wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hey Richard,
>>>
>>>I don't think there is any such thing, i.e., usenet is not
>>>a "one-server/many client" architecture. It is a
>>>"many-server/many client" architecture. Usenet
>>>articles propagate around the world to all usenet
>>>news servers via the NNTP (Network News Transport
>>>Protocol), then clients suck the news off of their respective
>>>servers. 
>>>
>>>I think.
>>>
>>>--Randy
>>
>>You think correctly
> 
> 
> As a matter of fact, I have seen public newsgroups created by asking ISP's
> to "carry" groups that were privately hosted by a vendor.
> 
> If enough people ask their respective ISP to carry comp.soft-sys.octave (or
> whatever), it might just "appear".


It actually works that way. The difference is when we use control 
messages like "newgroup <newgroup-name>" things are automatized (not on 
all servers but most).

Himanshu Chauhan wrote:
> Randy Yates wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I've found this to be the case as well. In my opinion
>> they should just merge the two so that you get the whole
>> enchilada when you DL/install octave.
>>
>> --RY
>>
> 
> Okay, I am preparing an RFD to post at news.annonce.newgroup
> There are a few things.
> Group hierarchy:
> comp.soft-sys.octave (Is is okay?)
> 
> Other thing is should the group be moderated or unmoderated.
> what is your suggestion?
> 
> warm regards
> --Himanshu
> 

Okay, I have prepared outline of an RFD. I would like you people to take 
a look at it before it comes here and on news.announce.newgroup 
officially. Shall I post it here?

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Himanshu,

please check the clock on your computer or perhaps let your newserver
ISP check theirs out.  you are posting in the future:

From: Himanshu Chauhan <hs.chau...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.dsp
Subject: Re: New GNU Octave group
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 08:30:25 +0000
Organization: IGNOU, Delhi

right now, it is 6:04 Greenwich Time.  can't be 8:30 yet.

r b-j

In a short while I can use usenet. That means that

a. I don't have subscribe to anything
b. I don't have to go to a website (and thus
use a web interface) to get messages but
instead can use a usenet news client.
c. I don't get unsolicited messages
d. My message persists in a thread.
e. etc., etc.

--RY

robert bristow-johnson wrote:
> Himanshu,
> 
> please check the clock on your computer or perhaps let your newserver
> ISP check theirs out.  you are posting in the future:
> 
> From: Himanshu Chauhan <hs.chau...@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: comp.dsp
> Subject: Re: New GNU Octave group
> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 08:30:25 +0000
> Organization: IGNOU, Delhi
> 
> right now, it is 6:04 Greenwich Time.  can't be 8:30 yet.
> 
> r b-j
> 
I think its okay now!

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|         MCA (Final Year)          |
|   I.G. National Open University   |
|        Delhi (India)              |
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| Contact: hs.chauhan@gmail.com     |
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