On 27.09.2015 9:48, Rick Lyons wrote:> > Hi Guys, > DSP guru fred harris has published journal and > conference papers with a lady co-author named > Elettra Venosa. This ticks me off! Fred's > co-authors look like Ms. Venosa and my co-authors > look like Eric Jacobsen, Randy Yates, and Grant Griffin? > > http://www.eeweb.com/bio/elettra_venosa > > Like just ain't fair. > > [-Rick-] >On the point of further character exploration, I'm just going to leave it here: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1709364 Regards, Evgeny.
OT: I'm ticked off at DSP guru fred harris
Started by ●September 27, 2015
Reply by ●September 28, 20152015-09-28
Reply by ●September 28, 20152015-09-28
On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 3:25:52 PM UTC-4, Tim Wescott wrote:> On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 23:48:35 -0700, Rick Lyons wrote: > > > Hi Guys, > > DSP guru fred harris has published journal and > > conference papers with a lady co-author named Elettra Venosa. This > > ticks me off! Fred's co-authors look like Ms. Venosa and my co-authors > > look like Eric Jacobsen, Randy Yates, and Grant Griffin? > > > > http://www.eeweb.com/bio/elettra_venosa > > > > Like just ain't fair. > > > > [-Rick-] > > That's kind of a sexist comment, Rick. Possibly understandable, but > sexist. > > -- > > Tim Wescott > Wescott Design Services > http://www.wescottdesign.comYes, sexist. We are in a brave new world now where having fun by joking about human nature is bad bad bad
Reply by ●September 28, 20152015-09-28
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 01:34:43 -0700, Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org> wrote:>On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 20:45:59 -0400, robert bristow-johnson ><rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote: > >>hey, didn't you omit Greg Berchin? about 5 years ago i was in the >>Harvard Coop and saw a book with an interesting title (something about >>DSP tricks or whatever was the name of your IEEE column) and it had >>Greg's FDLS in it. > >Hi Robert, > You're right. I listed Eric, Randy, and Grant because >I've met them and I know what they look like. I don't know >what Greg looks like. For all I know, Greg may look >like Brad Pitt, or maybe George Clooney.I've been told that I look a little like one of the Hager Twins, from Hee Haw, if that helps (or hurts). Greg
Reply by ●September 28, 20152015-09-28
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 11:49:21 +0300, Evgeny Filatov wrote:> On 28.09.2015 9:04, Tim Wescott wrote: >> On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 15:47:13 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 13:27:53 -0700, Rick Lyons wrote: >>> >>> Would you want your female colleagues to judge the desirability of >>> your work by how good you look? >> >> For that matter, would you feel comfortable if one of your _male_ >> colleagues declared publicly that you were hot, and that he wanted to >> work closely with you? >> >> > That's one way of looking at it, but when we are talking about > interactions between humans (e.g. a conference), it might be hard to > distinguish fascination with someone's results from fascination with how > well they are presented.I agree. I try to separate the two (well, the three if you factor in fascination with the person herself -- and I say "her" because that's the way I swing). However, presentation certainly is a factor in valuing a person in an academic role -- people who are absolutely brilliant but can't communicate for beans is always going to need people around them who are damned smart to translate what they say into more human language. Someone who's both brilliant and can communicate (like Feynman) has a head start in that regard. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com
Reply by ●September 28, 20152015-09-28
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 02:32:46 -0700, Rick Lyons wrote:> On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 15:47:13 -0500, Tim Wescott > <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> wrote: > >>On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 13:27:53 -0700, Rick Lyons wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 14:25:46 -0500, Tim Wescott >>> <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 23:48:35 -0700, Rick Lyons wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>> DSP guru fred harris has published journal and >>>>> conference papers with a lady co-author named Elettra Venosa. This >>>>> ticks me off! Fred's co-authors look like Ms. Venosa and my >>>>> co-authors look like Eric Jacobsen, Randy Yates, and Grant Griffin? >>>>> >>>>> http://www.eeweb.com/bio/elettra_venosa >>>>> >>>>> Like just ain't fair. >>>>> >>>>> [-Rick-] >>>> >>>>That's kind of a sexist comment, Rick. Possibly understandable, but >>>>sexist. >>> >>> Hi Tim, >>> Humm. I don't know if you're serious >>> or are you just joking with me. >> >>Would you want your female colleagues to judge the desirability of your >>work by how good you look? > > Unlike Eric, you misunderstood my post. If you reread my post you'll > see that I made no mention of the quality of Ms. Venosa's work. > > Don't be upset Tim. If you wish, in the future I'll submit all my > potential posts to you for your prior approval before I post them here. > > [-Rick-]No no, this is USENET -- post as you will, and I'll throw rocks as I see fit. I'll expect you to do the same. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com
Reply by ●September 28, 20152015-09-28
Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org> writes:> Hi Guys, > DSP guru fred harris has published journal and > conference papers with a lady co-author named > Elettra Venosa. This ticks me off! Fred's > co-authors look like Ms. Venosa and my co-authors > look like Eric Jacobsen, Randy Yates, and Grant Griffin? > > http://www.eeweb.com/bio/elettra_venosa > > Like just ain't fair.Rick, OK, I've tried for a day to think of a witty quip and I can't do it. I guess Ms. Venosa is just better e-quipped... -- Randy Yates Digital Signal Labs http://www.digitalsignallabs.com
Reply by ●September 29, 20152015-09-29
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 23:48:35 -0700, Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org> wrote:> >Hi Guys, > DSP guru fred harris has published journal and >conference papers with a lady co-author named >Elettra Venosa. This ticks me off! Fred's >co-authors look like Ms. Venosa and my co-authors >look like Eric Jacobsen, Randy Yates, and Grant Griffin? > >http://www.eeweb.com/bio/elettra_venosa > >Like just ain't fair. > >[-Rick-]Hmm, how sure are we that this is a real person? With a name of "Electric Veins" it sure sounds like a gag. Or maybe this is what New Scientist magazine calls "nominative determinism": With a name like that one could hardly fail to become an EE! Best regards, Bob Masta DAQARTA v8.00 Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis www.daqarta.com Scope, Spectrum, Spectrogram, Sound Level Meter Frequency Counter, Pitch Track, Pitch-to-MIDI FREE 8-channel Signal Generator, DaqMusiq generator Science with your sound card!
Reply by ●September 29, 20152015-09-29
>On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 23:48:35 -0700, Rick Lyons ><R.Lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org> wrote: > >> >>Hi Guys, >> DSP guru fred harris has published journal and >>conference papers with a lady co-author named >>Elettra Venosa. This ticks me off! Fred's >>co-authors look like Ms. Venosa and my co-authors >>look like Eric Jacobsen, Randy Yates, and Grant Griffin? >> >>http://www.eeweb.com/bio/elettra_venosa >> >>Like just ain't fair. >> >>[-Rick-] > >Hmm, how sure are we that this is a real person? With a >name of "Electric Veins" it sure sounds like a gag. > >Or maybe this is what New Scientist magazine calls >"nominative determinism": With a name like that one could >hardly fail to become an EE! > >Best regards, > > >Bob Masta > > DAQARTA v8.00 > Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis > www.daqarta.com >Scope, Spectrum, Spectrogram, Sound Level Meter > Frequency Counter, Pitch Track, Pitch-to-MIDI >FREE 8-channel Signal Generator, DaqMusiq generator > Science with your sound card!--------------------------------------- Posted through http://www.DSPRelated.com
Reply by ●September 29, 20152015-09-29
I cannot believe that such topic exists! I don't know how old you are but this initial post is not ok even if you are a teenager! Clearly you all know each other here but I think this kind of topics should remain in your private circles. --------------------------------------- Posted through http://www.DSPRelated.com
Reply by ●September 29, 20152015-09-29
On 9/29/15 10:53 AM, b2508 wrote:> I cannot believe that such topic exists! I don't know how old you are but > this initial post is not ok even if you are a teenager! > > Clearly you all know each other here but I think this kind of topics > should remain in your private circles.Randy or Rick, it's your mother speaking to you. better shape up, boy. -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
